Indianapolis Journal, Indianapolis, Marion County, 11 February 1894 — Page 1

THE

SUNDAY

J OURNAL.

PART ONE, g I PAGES 1 TO 8 PRICK FIVE CENTS. INDIANAPOLIS, SUNDAY MORNING, FEMtUAltY 11, 1891-S1XTEEN PAGES. PllICE FIVE CENTS.

WELL! WELL! AVE LI J MONDAY'S WINDOW BARGAINS

dozen Crystal Star engraved Tumblers, worth ji dozen, fur 4o a dozen. Onlv One Dozen to a Customer. We nuke this limit to phut out dealers Blue and White 'hina Cmbrtlla Stands, worth ., for AND Satsuma Vase?, J 'J inches, worth 1.23, for 10c AND Many other matchless Bargains. Greater than ever. IP ASTMAN. V SCHLEICHER & LEE Window Bargain Sale Every Monday. em

1 M

R

Which has been a GRAND SUCCESS tho past week, will continue until everything is closed out. We will make this the BANNER WEEK of the sale. Call and see the Largest and Best Selected stock of Furniture in the Newest Patterns. Our Prices Will Do tlie Rest All goods marked in plain figures. Everything must he sold. sanderT&recker Oldest and Most Reliable Furniture House in the City. 103,105 and lOT EAST "W ASHINGTON" ST.

Dresden Novelties The CHOICEST assortment of DRESDEN NOVELTIES ever shown in this city have just been received. From this lot of goods wo make up our order for fall importations. The lino will bu sold at first cost until Thursday morning, when a report must be made. This line includes Paperknives, Inkstands, Penholders and Pen Wipers, Trays and other dainty forms appropriate for Valentines and Easter Gifts. A call will be appreciated by

olsoC.WalteS

on

Successors to

io?ham LEADIXG JEWELERS. VALENTINES. COME AND SEE US. CATIICART, CLELAXD CO. ( East Washington street. Indianapolis, lna. PEARSON'S MKE Easy : Monthly : Payments. - 82 and Si S. FENN. ST., INDIAN; SLOAN'S BEEF, WINE AND IRON This admirable preparation j ih -ccfully uso.l ihirinp th past teu J-ar ha now Weenie almost netewftty to that cia ot patients mjulrinjf a iniM lut fituifct tome, u)tui.tii the virtues of Fn-s.i Pfcf. a wmcrt quality t Slurry Wlue, aut a Salt of Iron, which treuttwn ut iloe.s not ntir&U. ltuein CriTalriceuce. AN jst in k Lif'.i -. 1T Prpula. AlcoholUni, Lou of Appftite. ivuu 1hbllityand ;ene-ral ProatratioD, U Too wtll ktviwn to require further comment. UFAK W. SLOAN. Wrftt Wnsulngtou St. Iudiauapoll. ART EMPORIUM. Telephone 503. French imitation water colors, figures of pretty girls in gay costumes?, in oval whitc-and-gold frames, with garlands, make nice Valentines. We havo them. Make your own Valentines with SouIea Photosmiths. THE H. LIEBER COMPANY. 33 South Meridian St. Walter oli. it.vHi.fc-. r. f.Binix. OLDS fc GRIFFIN LAWYF.lls. ults lil.-.-ltU. TIIK TACOMA. rornf-r Mlinou anil IilUntrts.cli.iaijo, ill. Indiana onirr: iiammoint. Jut. Ibo Weekly Jounal. 1 Ter Annum

PIANOS

I'nlr went her. PERFORMANCE AND PROMISE. AN UNCONFUTABLE COMBINATION The only one that insures true results. It lias carried us to the present greatness of our industrial pre-eminence. It is the safest, best and most economic system for the consumer to bank on, as it guarantees fair dealing, honest methods and tho greatest returns for the least money expended. Men's and Youths' Single ami double-breasted $1 5, $16, $18, $20, $22, $25 OVERCOATS at

11.90.

IHJHd

rr

SANDER & RECKER'S

ova j 00. S Walk 12 EAST WASHIXGTOX ST. 31. 31. Cuinmiiiprs's Flour Store .Successor to Van Pelt, Ta hem!iiarter for tin- wry best Jlrea.l ami Paltry Flour, awl all iNipal.tr iralM. w hole Wheat ami ;luion flour, Ki.llt'u ii.uk ami WIic.it. eh-.. atW North Delaware st.. o;.. .Market Hons.. TVIipl.oue "OX They're only truly Kren who are truly Kood." Uneasy is the head that wears an ill-made hat. Our Hats never make m their wearers uneasy. DALTOM J HIGH-CLASS BATTER, J Agent KNOX'S worldrenowned Hats. A1. PAKUUIDGE FLUSH AGAIN. He Is Koportcd to Have Cleared S2,000,000 on the Decline of Wheat. CHKUCIO. Feb. 10. It Js jaM on 'Chanse that K1 ranlridRp has cleartnl over $2.100,W) in the last thrvt months by sollins the market hort." The bulk of his operations ha.s been vhat. I'anlriJt? upeare.l as a bear when whrat was in the Foventles, ami. It Is .tatol. has born sUadi'.y InrtvaPinff his bank account as tho market fb-cni to its Mcsont phi ct near W. H i? now yaicl to have practically clst his tradps. Cniiplr Killed li.v Iloblx'ra. KNOXVILLK. Tfiin., Feb. pt.At Oa.les, twpnty-flve miles from h-r?, last Thursday nlht. two Uiitnajskpil white robbers phot ami i:illel Ili-nry Snoild-rly and wife and robbed their houe. A prandson. Samuel i wynne. and two KranddauKhters were friKhlPuci into submission. The robbers took two horses and made their escape. "Old Process" w hisky ha absolutely pure.

aw

WHEN

R

v. y o DYNAMITE PLOTTEBS Two Girls Arrested for Scheming to Blow Up a County Jail. They Wanted to Release a Notorious Criminal Who Was About to Be Ke- " moved to the Penitentiary. LINCOLN', 111., Feb. 0.Late this evening much excitement was caused by the news of an unsuccessful, though well-arrange plot to blow up tho jail of Loan county, located here, the conspiracy having for Its purpose the liberation &f a notorious local criminal under sentence of six years to JoIIet prison, and waiting: removal thereto on the morrow. The persons implicated; in the plot are Arthur Goodpasture, Ida Shells and Georgia Williams. Late last night thre sticks of dynamite with fuses and caps were purchased with the Intention of beinjr passed Into the jail by the Shells woman to Goodpasture, who had repeatedly declared before and since his conviction that he would die before he would go to the penitentiary t having no concern as to the consequences for himself ami a dozen other criminal.1, and the sheriffs family. Luckily for all concerned Goodpasture was imprisoned in a cell at; a precautionary measure, It beinji feared that some sort of an attempt at rescue would be made. Tho Jail premises were visited at midnight last night, but the arrangement to pass out through a window a string to which the dynamite was to te attached and hauled up failed. Daylight investigation showed women's footprints around the Jail and a ladfvr ready for use. During the afternoon a young man who was in the company of the girls list night and ascertained their plans told th police. The arrest of the girls followed. The dynamite was found at the home of one, and when the prisoners were locked up the Williams girl confessed her complicity in the plot, and added, further, that another attempt would have been made to-nisht. and, should it have failed, then the Shells girl was to explode the charges from the outside and run the chances of beins successful. The excitement was Intensified when it came out that the project was evtn discussed and decided unon of blowing up the courthouse this afternoon during u session of court while Goodpasture's application for a new trial was under consideration. The conspirators were, however, foiled by the motion bc-ing called this forenoon, earlh-r than anticipated. Goodpasture Is the son of a Tennessee Methodist preacher and lias been clvirned with various crimes, with indictments for burglary and other crimes hanging over him supplementary to the one under which he was convicted. lie was the bead of a desperate band of burglars. At midnight he left under a strong guard and handcuffed to a pal. who als-o goes for six years. The Shells woman is the fiance of Van Meter, the West Virginia train robber sent to .loiiet last week for ten years for attempting to rob a passenger train on the Peorin. Decatur & Kvansville railroad near here last November, when he shot a brakeman who was defending the train. Her connection wit'i the dynamite plot was to' avenge the punishment of her lover. Sh? is only seventeen years old and rather pretty. "SQUEAL" FKOil GAMULEIIS. Alleged Organized Ellort to 'Sainlbar" the Pool Kooins. DALLAS, Tex., Feb. 10. There is a great "kick" and "squeal" in horse-race circies and pool rooms In Dallas. The wlrs from New Orleans has become so hot that it has been dropjed in this city. "It came about In this way," said Mr. J. I Jones, of the Turf Kxchange. "The odds that have be?n sent in from New Orlcan have been 'que-rd' of latr, and it Hppam thero is an organized effort to sandbag the pool rooms over the country. We have brrn mulcted to the tune of in the last ton days, and have decided to disenatlnu? the New Orleans wire for a while. From wh.it I can learn, there are areata of the comtln? in every- town, and they are making a gigantic thing of it. Who the Dallas agent Is Is a conundrum we would like to solve." Obltnnry. WILMINGTON, Del., Fab. ll.-Ex-Con-grcsrman James Hush Ixfland died at hU home hero to-day after a short illness.

WORK ON THE TARIFF

What the Semite Committee Is Tryinjr to Accomplish. When the Hill Is Completed it Will Bo as Nearly a Pure Revenue Measure as Possible. FIIEE LIST TO BE CURTAILED Ami Income Taxes Likely to Be .Retained in the Bill. Itondod Period for Whisky to Bo Increased Probably Two Years and the Tax Possibly Raised. WASHINGTON, Feb. 10. The Senate subcommittee engaged on the tariff bill closed a very busy week late this evening, and when the work of the day was concluded, found that it had mado suliident progress to "begin to Fee daylight In the distance," as one expressed It. The members declined, however, to state when the bill would be in shape for presentation to th. -full committee. The Indications are that they are making every effort to complete it, so as to present it some time next week. Not only the members of the committee, but the experts who are assisting them are putting in' extra hours on the bill. The developments of the day Indicate that the Income tax feature of the bill is to be undisturbed, that the term for whisky in bond will be extended for two years beyond the time at present allowed, and that the free list will be very much curtailed and many of the articles now on this list will be placed on the dutiajble ll3t under the ad valorem system. This latter change is to be made in accordance with the committee's plan of making the bill strictly a revenue measure and to avoid the appearance of favoritism. The Senators have been working in the light of more information than it was possible for the House ways and means committee to have when the bill was before It, and they have been devoting themselves with assiduity to preparing a bill which will meet the revenue requirements, with the end n view of preventing another resort to the bond issue. They find In pursuing this Investigation and in view of the possibility of the continuance of the present period of depression that it will be consistent with thi3 purpose to both retain the Income tax and to place a duty on sugar. Hence there is little doubt that they have concluded, as far as they have decided upon any course, to allow the income tax to remain substantially a.-i passed by the House. The sugar duty will be added but possibly at not so high a rate as the Louisiana Senators would desire or has heretofore been suggested. It may be anywhere from ?i of a cent to 1U cents per pound on sugar under the K Dutch standard. There Is some, opposition in the subcommittee to any duty whatever on this grade, but the Ijoulsiana Senators are so urgent in their demands that the committee will find it difficult, if a majority were so disposed, to refuse tneir request. If it should be made to appear after the bill shall have passed the Senute that the bill will provide more revenue than will be necessary, and that the House- of Representatives will hi dissatisfied with and unwilling to accept it. it can, of course, be amended in conference. Indeed, the Senate committee 13 taking into consideration the probability of having to make some changes at that stage, and is shaping the bill accordingly. It is so with coal, and while It is understood that the bill, ns it will be reported by the subcommittee, will report a duty of ;.) cents per ton on coal, it is believed that this will be cut to CO or 40 cents in conference. EFFORTS OF WHISKY MEN. The whisky men are working hard for an extension of the bonded period, and they are likely to succeed. The Kentucky distilling interest Is represented here now in the person of Capt. T. II. Sherly, who has enlisted the active co-operation of both Senators Blackburn and Lindsay. They have succeeded in getting the facts, as Captain Sherly and others who are engaged in the same work understand them, before the committee. They show by figures obtalm-d from the Commissioner of Internal iCevenue that if the present laws should continue In force, fixing the bonded period at three years, which is not changed by the "Wilson bill as it passed the House, the revenue derived by the government from whisky in bond would be, at ! cents per gallon, as fixed by the present law, about $1.7 MX)!). If the bonded period should be estend?d without an increase of the tax it would be alKut $1 KMVjO.UiK). but if the bonded period should be lengthened anil the tav increased to l per gallon the tax would Mill amount, iri the aggregate, to $ 150,000.' . while, If the tax should be Increased to Sd.lO per gallon, even with the horded period extended, the government's income from thU source would be about 1.0,ooo,n)q. The distillers are devoting .themselves more particularly to Sv-curing an extension of the bonded period than to preventing action on the part of the Senate Icoklv.g to an increase of the tax. There is still a possibility of a material increase in the rate of the tax, but no figures are given beyond $1.20 per gallon, with the chances largely in favor of the lig"ure remaining as bxed by the present bill, or that it will not be put above 51.10. and that whether there is any Increase over the "Wilson bill or not the bonded period will be extended to five years. The Kentuckians to-day devoted most of their time to the extension of the bondd period which the distillers say.in the present depressed condition of businesses absolutely necessary to them. They represent that there are now is3.0u0.000 gallons of whisky In bonded warehouses, which must be taken out under the Wilson bill within the next three years, much of it within the next year or two. This, even without the Increase of the tax, would be a hardship, and with the increase the burden will be that much heavier. Senator Voorhees. chairman of the finance committee, accompanied the Kentucky Senators on their visit to the rubcomm'ttee, a fact which is considered as favorable to the extension of the bonded period. He had previously been In conference with some of the representatives of the distilling interest. Senator McFherson was also closeted with the subcommittee for a considerable time during the day. The advocates of a duty on Iron ore are bringing strong pressure to bear to secure a duty on that article, but have not met as much .encouragement, as the coal men. The committee finds a difficulty in th" way which does not present itself in common with coal. Coal Is a simple article, and one action upon that will suffice, whereas, if iron or is transferred to the dutiable list, the change may necessitate the complete rt modeling of the metal schedide. The advocates of duty admit this, but urge that the necessities are strong. The Alabama Senators are understood to be especially urgins this change. COXFKIIK t K COMJII IT I J US. "Wliv nml Hov Tliv Arc Appointed Their Heport Seldom Kejctl. Special to the Indiana! oils Journal. WASHINGTON, Feb. VK From this time on till thft tariff bill Is sent to President Cleveland for signature or finally dfentei ! there will b' a good deal heard about "the conference committee" and "consrences." It Isn't every one who knows Just what a conference committee is or what duty a coaferree i exp?cted to perform cr how he Is elected. The Vice President or President pro tempore appoints the conferred for the upper, and the Speaker of the House of Representatives those for tha lower branch of

Congress. Each house has thre confrrree. and the six constitute "the conference committee." The majority iu each house h.-s two and the minority one of the conferreps. The presiding officer in each house selects th conferrees without any direction from the body over which he presides. Th's action is as much a part of his prerogatives and duties as the selection of committees which have standing jurisdiction over subjects assigned to them. In faet. the selection of conferrees is more of an arbitrary duty imposed uikjii the presiding oilieer of the Senate than the selection of standing committees, as the majority and minority of that body usually agree upon their representation upon standing committees by caucus and through "steering committees." Th" Speaker of the House is never instructed in the selection of standing or irregular committees, and acts solely upon his own discretion. The selection of a conference committee on the tariff bill is extremely Important. It even ranks the importance of the selection of the regular ways and means and finance committees. A conference committee is selected to adjust differences between the two houses. After a bill is adopted by one house it goes to the other. The second body makes amendments and passes the bill, and it goes back to the body originating it for the adoption or rejection of the amendments. Ir that !ody refuses to concur in the amendments it so states, and then aks for a conference committee. The differences demanding a conference committee are such ns cannot bo adjusted by ordinary discussion and negotiation. Ordinarily the recommendations to each house of its conferrees are adopted. It frequently occurs that in the conference the conferrees of a house recede from the action taken by their bouse and agree to the action of the other body, when the body they represent has in most emphatic and sometimes unanimous action declined to accept the amendment. Then there is usually a big right over the action n the conferrees when they report to their body; and occasionally the house declines to accept the recommendation of its conferrees. It is rare, however, that either body overthrows the judgment of its conferrees. It is very frequent, almost the custom, for a body to receive a disagreement from Its conferrees after there have been two or three meetings of the conference committee, and then simply order another meeting, another effort to reach an amicable agreement. Sometimes there are weeks of time consumed in trying to instruct the conferrees to recede from or stand firm to their position, and occasionally it becomes necessary to appoint new conferrees, as those already selected are unable to reneh any agreement. Hut It is the custom, nine times out of ten, for the house to accept and adopt the action of its conferrees without question. In the adjustment of differences in a tariff bill between the two hou?es the work of the conference committee .is important, in that It has not only a great many points of dispute, but they involve great questions. The two houses are usually able to adjust minor differences without a conference. For instance, the House has said by an almost unanimous vote that it will not put anv duty on raw sugar, while the Senate, it is stated, will put a duty upon that article. Such a question will have to be adjusted by a conference committee. The House has refused to extend the bonded period for whisky, while the Senate may agree to an extension. This would be an apparently irreconcilable difference, and would have to be adjusted In conference. A new proposition cannot be raised in conference; only existing differences can be considered. That Is to say, a conferree cannot propose to change an item agreed uon by the two houses; he cannot change figures which are not in dispute already. It will be u-e'ess to appeal to the conference committee for changes in the tariff bill unless there exist differences of opinion upon the subjects between the two houses. In selecting a conference' committee like the one which will have the important work of adjusting differences on the tariff bill the presiding officers will take a Uemocrat for each house from the South and one from the North, and the minority will sug gest a representative Republican, probably one representing a manufacturing section. It is bell -fd that ex-Soaaker Keed will be the Republican member on the part of the House and either Senator Aldrloh or Senator Allison will represent the Republicans in the upper branch of Congress, whilo Chairman WilFon will doubtless be tho Southern Representative in the House, and Mr. ltynum, of Indiana, representing a manufp.cturing section in the North, will be the Northern Democrat; and Chairman Voorhfes. from the North, and probably Vest or Mills will represent the South in the Senate. DICTATOIl CLUrCLAM).

The President Is the Ileal Lender of tho Lorver llouxe of Cota:rci. Special to the Indianapolis Journal. WASHINGTON, Feb. 10. It wuold seem that men in all stations of life must have some one to control and run them, the same as people must have fhme one to humbus them. It will b? remembered that P. T. Rarnum, when upbraided for deceiving the public with sham sections In his show, replied that tho people must b humbugged. Even the men who were big enough to win ward, city, township, county, district and, in some instances. State conventions and legislatures- and come to Congress, must be managed and humbugged. There is no class of men prominent before the country who are so often swindled and imposed upon and handled to their disadvantage as Congressmen. They are constantly complaining of being buncoed and "done up" by confidence men. But they are In their element when they are being led by a rope pendant from a ring in their noses. President Cleveland is as thoroughly In command of the Democratic forces in the House of Representatives as any captain ever was of a slave company. He not only subjugated two-thirds cf his party representatives in Congress when the bill to repeal the silver purchasing law was brought forward and compelled men to swallow their principles and platform, but he simply coerced a sufih lent number of his partisans in the House to defeat amendments to the Wilson tariff bill and secure the adontlon of that measure on its final passage. Of course there were a few factious bovines in th herd who ran away from and beyond the lash and got out into the opposition pasture, but they were few and were not needed. Six weeks ago it looked as though there could not be found in the Hou.-e a dozen Democrats who would vote for any proposition on the Hawaiian question which did not directly condemn the policy of this administration. The President said nothing but sawed wood. He knew that when he wanted an indorsement for his podcy he would get it, and that the men who were talking the loudest against him would be the most vigorous in supporting him wheu be neeill their support. Final!'.', when the tariff bill was out of the way he indicated that it was about time for Congress to give his Hawaiian policy a cordial indorsement. The opposition closed up and was silent. The resolution was brought forward and passed. The Senate judiciary committee caught the President napping, however, on the Hornblower nomination. The? executive evidently had no idea of the enormity of the opposition to his disregard for senatorial courtesy. When h$ sent in the nomination of Peckham, alro for the vacancy on the Supreme Court Hench, he told his friends in the Senate that It was about time to stop the Democratic foolishness of opposing nominations. It was amusing to t-ee the boisterous opposition bite their nether lips and fall into line. How far he was successful in coercing opposition the second time is already known. It Is when a vo'e is about to bo taken In the Hour?e of Representatives that the control of man over man is best shown. Frequently the body of men on one side or the other have no idea how they should vote, or what the policy of their party should be: but their leader knows, th Fame as the queen bee knows, and indicates to the swarm where it HhouM go when It haves the hive. There is a moment of silence and eager looking around by the ewes and lambs to see whre the le!l wether will Jump. He finally indicates the ivdicy to b. pursued by crying out the aye, or nay, or rising, and then the way is made clear. He has jumped the fence; now the flock follows him without question. Sliver Mine Miuttliii; I)itii. DENVER. Col.. Feb. lu. Many silver mines which wen reopened after the panic last summer, it being possible to operate them at a small prot't with silver at 70 cents, have Ik-ch running at a loss since silver fell below that point. The owners of suh mln-s are discussing the advisability of closing down av,aln, and i is reported triat. they will take concerted nctiou to that end. If this is dene the snritcrc will be seri:"t:slv ham;tvd, as the low grad: ore Is essential for fluxing purjxscs. Itrhuttnl l!hh iire In the Couubltn Cu MNCA;o. Feb. 10. Rebuttal testinionv for the State v.us resumed to-day in the Ccuphlin eae. Cassius M. Clay, the depot agent at Kuvafr, wn called to the stand to testlfv regarding th eh ctrlc lighting of that vidage in lvr.J. fie testlfled that there had been a search l!?ht over the door of the lctrio-lient works, as Frank Rard?en had s ild. but on rross-examlaatieu could not say that the lifcht was there tn

Carroll L. Kiker Wants the Whole Issue of Bonds.

He Hid for the Fifty Millions and llti Brought Suit to Compel the Secretary to Deliver Them. CARLISLE'S FINANCIAL VIEWS His Position on the Silver Seismiorage and Bond Questions. Reply to Questions Put by Members of the House Judiciary Committee at a Secret Hearing:. "WASHINGTON, Feb. 10.-C. L. Hiker, th Chicago man who recently attracted soma attention by putting in bids for the oO,0, 000 of bonds called for by Secretary Carlisle, this afternoon tiled a petition in the Su- , preme Court of the Distffct seeking" a mandamus to compel Secretary Carlisle to Issue $30,000,000 In bonds to him, according to tha terms of his bid. The Secretary on receiving the Riker proposals, which were extraordinary, investigated his financial status, and a3 a result of this Inquiry he Ignored the Hiker proposals, Mr. Hiker's petition, immediately after being filed, was presented to Justice Bradley, of the Supreme Court of the District, who withheld It from publication. It Is a long document and says that weeks wert spent in preparing it. The question of Issuing the mandamus is now under con.ld eratlon, and Justice Bradley will render his decision at 10 o'clock Monday mornlny. Mr. Riker asserts that in case of an adverse decision he will appeal to higher court. "I would rather be la my shoes to-day than In Secretary Carlisle's, despite all that he has said against me," he said tonight. "Do I look like a crank? I cam here on no fool's errand. People say I am a greenhorn for gobbling the whole issue, but I've done it. I've got to vindicate myself and prove that the grnus crank belongs to somebody else. Finance is th only thing I ever made a study of hi politics. I do not want to make any accusations except under oath In court. I've done buslress for twenty-five years and never has a suspicion been raised against me, and I am ready to make oath to It and speak on stacks of Bibles. There are ten thousand people who know me, and they never knew a harder worker. People call sd me a crank when I left for England on Aug. 2, 1871, where I took for sale the first piece of American fresh meat ever landed In a European country for sale. I was termed a crank of the first stripe when I built the first refrigerator warehouse in New York in May, 1874. I made about 5,000 a week transporting meats to Europe. "William G. Ladd, of Brooklyn, was associated with me. I have ' been interested in a dozen big enterprises, including an unfermented grape-Juice plant at Ecopus, N. Y., on the Hudson river. My petition has been examined and passed on by Senators who have cemmitteed themselves to it. There will be music before we get through." Sovereign Will Try Again. PHILADELPHIA, Feb. 10. J. XI. Sovereign, general master workman of ths Knights of Labor, whose headquarters are In this city, arrived from the West to-day. He denied emphatically that there had been any charges made against Mr. Powderly,' saying that all such statements are merely newspaper talk, ana aon't amount to a row of pins. In reference to the injunction suit against Secretary Carlisle to prevent the issuing: of bonds. Mr. Sovereign said: "The end Is not yet. We intend to make another move In the matter, but have not yet fully decided what we will do. An appeal has been taken in the case, and we Intend to push the matter. However, I am not very competent to speak on the subject. Secretary Hayes attended to the matter while I waa in another part of the country." Mr. Sovereign declined to discuss the rumors current that the Knights of Labor as an organization are in need of funds. CARLISLE Ql'ESTIOXED. Tlie Secretary Before the House Cominit on Judiciary. WASHINGTON, Feb. 10.-Secretary Carlisle's exact views and policy on financial questions, including silver seigniorage bonds and finaaice in general were pet forth and simplified in an important document which reached the House committee on Judiciary to-day. It is the stenographic report of Mr. Carlisle's secret hearing before the committee some time airo. The testimony of this secret hearing shows that, concerning the coinage cf silver seigniorage. Representative Oates asked: "I want to ask you if there i any objection to the proposition about coining th seigniorage or issuing certificates against that?" ' Secretary Carlisle Well, the effect of that would be that the Secretary of the Treasury would iue silver certificates caJlLnc for dollars, I suppose, when there were no dollars behind them, and if they came in for redemption, as they might, the Secretary of the Treasury v culd be compelled. I. suppose, to use gold or whatever else hs had to redeem them. Mr. Boatner Could you not coin the silver and use that? Secretary Carlisle Ye, in alout two ye:.rs; it would take about ti5at time. Mr. W. A. Stone Have you not got enough silver t; redeem it? Secretary Carlisle No. sir; certificates an outstanding against what we have, except about K.OuO.OOu or JS.OCu'OO. Mr. Stone What would b? the objection to i?puing certificates on account of ths seigniorage? Secretary Carlisle I was i going to stats that if we should issue certificates with nothing b?hind them but bullion, I think they would be greatly discredited in ths public mir.d. Mr. Stone And in order to kep up the credit you would have to redeem them in gold? Secretary Carlisle They would have to b redeemed "in something. Mr. J? ton p If you redeemed them In silver they would be discredited and you would have to redeem them In gold? Secretary Carlisle They would call for silver dollars; and there are no silver dvllar3 to redeem them. In answer to a question as to how fast the coinage of the seigniorage could ba pushed. Mr. Carlisle edid: 'if all oth?r coinage was surptnded at the mint, 1 estimate that we could coin about four million silver dollars per month, or IV"O,0W a year." The bond question was treat ed very elaborately by Mr. Carlisle. His purpose as to tiding the proceeds of the sale of binds Is fharply set forth in the following colloquy: Mr. Stone I understand your purpose ! simply to sell tondH to rerieem I'nlted States notes ar1 treasury nrte aii'l to th Mil-plus to rrnlonlsh the rr serve fund? Secretary Carlisle That 1 my purios, but I want to say to you. gentlemen, thit the Secretary of the Treasury may b confronted hereafter with a very seriou question as to hat he will do In the event Congress f.dls or refuses to make provision to supply the deficiency. Suppose, for instance. Congress passes a law, which it does every session, making appropriation for Minp particular purpose tho payment of pensions, for illustration anl makes It tLt