Indianapolis Daily Herald, Indianapolis, Marion County, 26 November 1867 — Page 2

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TUESDAY MORNIN# NOVEMBER 26

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The Impeachment Question. We publish this morning a full report the testimony of General Grant before impeachment committee. From tho expression of General Grant the country can form some Idea of hUvleWlfof public policy in tho settlement of our domestic difficulties. The evidence of Attorney General Spxkd relieves

the President from sny disposition to delay of general amnesty.

' Generalerut's Testimony* Tfet following fnpnrtotm rayort of €leiroral Grant’s testimony before the Judiciary Committee, on which there has ben eo much speculation In the newspapers, and which has been looked for with so much Interest. General Grant was examined July lb, 1807, and

testified aa follows:

“I have sesa the President very frequently In reference to the eondltlon of. affairs la the rebel Ststee. When I was asked to he at a Cabinet meeting, It was because some question which, as General of the army, I was Interested. 1 am net aware of Interviews with the President on amnesty. 1 had occasionally recommended a person for amnesty. I thought . myself at that time that there was no reason why, because a person had risen to the rank of ' General, he should be excluded from amnesty ! anv more than If he had failed to reach that rank. I spoke on that point. 1 did not see so much reason In the 920,090 clause. These are tho the only two points that E remember to have spoken of at the time. I afterwards, however, told him that I thought he was much nearer right oa the 920,000 clause than I was. 1 was present when the proclamation waa read In Cabinet, but my views were not asked. I never gave any opinion to the President that it would oe better at that time to Issuo a proclamation

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tbe trial of Jkff Davto. Tho testimony thus Car published, and it Is probably the strongest that can be presented on the Impeachment hUp, will fall to satisfy the country that there is any just ground lor tho extraordinary proi ceding and that the opposition to the Presiidcnt is based upon partia m animosity in'tcad of a desire to promote the public inter-

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Taxation ami Oar Antlonai Banks. Tho Journal assumes the position of apologist and defender of the national banking systom. It pronounces it “the safest and best systtm of paper currency that was ever bef reiu existence In any country.” Is It any suf<T or better than greenbacks? If a national bank note is returned for redemption, what dees the holder get for it ? Does he get gold or silver? >'o. only a greenback, for that is a legal tender in the payment of debts and Is the “lawful money” of the country. This is evidence, if any evidence be needed, that greenbacks are the belter currency. Hut the Journal argues in favor of the national banking system lor the reason that the taxablea In Marion county have increased during the current year about two millions of dollars and that largo Increase is mainly owing to the taxation of national bank stock.” A'tb'iih this amount of capital has been invested in national bank stock for several year.-, it h.n not been placed on the tax duplicate until this year, so that until now It has been exempt from taxation for State and (

iT.unty . *41. JlL exempt from mu- Mwnnjwul* “SVmTwHM r.b.1

nieipal taxnUfn. although enjoying all tho ih'ci lit s and the , i d, lion of the city government. '1 ise J u!rr areucs that tho people of M u i.011 nuty should f iVor tho national banking s\ str.it, lx cause it pUces nineteen hundred th "sand dollars upon tho tax duplicate Of this county, l-ct m look at tbe matter as a question of prolif and loss. Tho State tax for the current year is 20 cents on tho hundred dollars and the county tax JO cents on the hundred dollars, making cents In all. If the • ntiro amount of nominal stock of the national hanks in this city .should be rlaecd upon tk" tax duplicate it would yield to tho State and county an annual revenue of $'V>09. Naw I t in look at the other fide. On tho repre-i-ented capital of nineteen hundred thousand dollars tho national banks of this city receive from the Trcasuay I Apartment a circulation of seventeen hundred and ten thousand dollars. Upon this amount they receive from the ^ .vornment six pur cent. Interest, in gold. ‘Phis amounts io one hundred and two thou--audslx hundred dollars in coin, which is worth forty per cent, premium for greenbacks or national bank notes. ii 0 w then stands the

account ?

six per cent or $1,710,000 is . $102,000 Korty percent, premium is ... 41,010 In greenbacks ... ... $14:!,640 state and conuiv tax oa $i,!’l)O,U00 at . or. on tho $100, b ... 0,500 IPiTorcnee .. . $15-1,140 According : - 'hia .‘■bowing, on tho amount uouiinally inv« 11 l in national bank stock in ci:: 'jr:ty, there ian loss to tbe country of $151,1 :> annually i>y T sukstiii 1 : g i.alional bank

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'! ::o Jourigtl fays “if Ik • banks were aboll>lu d this capital would bo withdrawn, and tb. fax duplicate reduced a ordingly.” This does not follow. If the banks were abolished, would not that capital seek investment in some other .shape, an 1 find a place upon the tax duplicate? Hut it is not proposed to aboli'li the hanks. The proposition is only to substitute gr er.breks f r haltonal bank currency. Docs the substitute necessarily abolish tha national lianke? If so, then it Is evidence ti .t i'...'' valuoof the national hanking syst- m arise- from tho extraordinary privilege it now has of furnishing a currency which costs th .m l»ut little, and which is, in effect, capital Punished by the Ci ivernment, upon which they bank. The argument of the .Journal, then, amounts to thi«: That if the banks arc deprived of their present currency privileges it will be equivalent to an abolition of the system. Are the people willing to sustain a banking system at such a cost and for which they recrive no equivalent compensation? The Journal lets us into another secret. It says the national banks have their capital invested principally in ten-forties, ISSl’s, and other long bonds payable in gold by contract. The banks then construe the obligations of the Government, so far as five-twenties are concerned, just as Thad. Stevens ami Ben Butler do, and that is that they are redeemable in “greenbacks,” or the “lawful money” of the country. The national bankers are sharp. The Journal says they invest In gold bonds and let the people take the paper bonds. Is further evidence neccesary to show that the national bankers study their own Interests exclusively and not those of the peoplo? And suchJs the commentary that the Journal presents upon a banking system, which it says is the best in existence In any country. And as to the further value of the system wc quote tho following Item which wc find In the yesterdays

issue of that paper:

“Another special says that the creditors of tbe ten natlanal banks which have failed thus far will realize about seventy per cent., and tbe total lo*s to the public will be nearly $1 000,000. The circulation will, of conrse,

paid In full.”

If the national banks become insolvent, and can only pay seven per ceut.upon a greenback basis, what will be the result in the event of a redemption of specie payments?

* wa* mere who mr. .#oun*wn. i priviiegeor ngsia. —-

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wkich you ny WM up Before Mr. Lincoln’s A. HeclaimlBg that the time must .-nm*

death, and waa coatiaued afterward ? ' when they could be

A. I eay I have given my opinion

ular paaaagaa of It.

Q. Tell us what conversations yoi

^ept by a violation ot their ?arol«. I claimed ... Jell us what conversations you bad with that I gave them no political privilege, but tho Prsaideat ou tho subject, as far as you re- j that 1 sight, *e —rj niMMeniin. collect. - to arrange terms of surrender which would A. I have said, once or twice, as far ss I can i protect the liv es of those prisoners. 1 believe recollect, that I disagreed with two clauses of 1 that it is- cenoedcd x hy everybody that I had the proclamation. As to tbe plan of establish- 1 that riant/. Ik ns w that JUr.Llachln conceded

ing provisional governments there, that was a question which I knew nothing about, aud

It at thn time.

By Mr. Rouiwell—How

which I do net recollect having expressed an I President expressed to you the opinion that opinion about. Tbe only opinion I recollect General Lee, or others who had the benefit of having expressed on that subject at alt, was to : parole, should be tried and punished? •

"* * A. Not since about two years.

the Secretary of War. I thought there would be some difficulty in getting tbe people down there to accept offices, but I found afterward they were ready enough to take them.

By the Chairman—

Q, If I understand you correctly, the only

at any time beard the Frcai-

In reference to tbe ad-

Q Have you at any •lent make any remark

mission of members of Congress from the

rebel States into either House?

_ . . . A. 1 can not ssy, positively, what I have opinion you expressed, and the only advice ; beard him say on that subject. I have heard that you gave, were tn reference to the mill- him say as much, perhaps, in his

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htatc Items. —The New Albany Ledyer tells s horrible and disgusting story of a “respectable” couple in that city who have deliberately made prostitutes of their two daughters, —Two hundred and ninety newspapers are published <n this State. -Seventy-two buildings have been erected in Brazil this year. —A big convention of tbe Grand Army of the Republic will assemble in Madison on the 17th of December, to celebrate the anniversary of the battle of Nashville. —It Is understood that General Weitzel regards the construction of a canal on this side of the river as entirely feasible, and will embody a recommendation to that effect in bis report of the survey.—.V"/? AU/any Lorn-

mtrcial.

A Hrr at Senator Sumner. — Sumner asked “Are we a Nation?” at Cooper Institute laat night. On Monday night be occupied a seat In tbe dress circle of Wallack’s Theater, and a passage In tbe play (“The Belle’s Stratagem,”) caused a good many eyes to turn toward him with a malicious twinkle. Sir George Touchstone is talking to Mrs. Rsckett about bta wife, and be says, “Good Heavens, madam, to whom can a man trust bis wife in the present state ct society?” Tbe question was so apropos of the Sumner-Holstein affair, that all who had beard it and recognized Sumner In the audience, turned tbeir faces from tbe stage to him and bad a double enjoyment of the passage. “A bit! a palpable hit!” popped from a whole battery of eyes.

Some time ago tbe Rev. Mr. Spurgeon preached a sermon on tbe text, “And Mary wept.” In tbe midst of a stream of earneet eloquence tbat drew tears from many of those present. In describing tbe r.barecter of tbe tears shed by Mare over tbe feet of Jesus, be broke suddenly off. and turning to bis congregation, exelaimed: “Tbe tears which Mary shf d were not such tears as many of you pour nut when you come to this altar. They came from her heart—they were tears of blood—and not tbe poor stuff tbat you present as an offering to an offended Goa.” Then leaning over tbe pulpit, and looking earnestly In the sea of untuned faces, be exelafuied: “There are some of you for wboee tears I would not give

a farthing a quart.”

Tbe Newburyport Herald say« between New England and tbe Boutaern State* “there wan a mutual depeadoaee tbat *boOW bam made us tbe Awteat friends; and to-day there MBTptttof this country tbat has so M&eblaUMiarttk, Irtiwi m J.WW autw, M Ind Md >oi tht wtirbiili, thf mthin SbJtattS^^WrtbBaS itUaotTquMtion mg mHHjm mm nf abstract ODtBlOB. *—* - .—***-

t$. Did you ever gire your opinion to the Fftwident tbat bis proclamation latertered with tbe convention between youneif and

General Lee?

A. No, sir. I frequently had to intercede for General Lee, and other paroled officers, on tbe ground that tbeir parole, so long aa they obeyed the laws of the United States, protected them from arrest, and that the President at that time occupied exactly the tame ground, viz: that they abould be tried and punished. He wanted to know wben the time would come tbat tbey abould be puniahed. I told him not so long as tbey obeyed tbe laws and compiled with tbfe stipulations. Tbat was the

ground I took.

Q. Did you not also insist that that applied

as well to the common soldiers?

A. Of course; it applied to every one who took the parole; but that matter was not conversed upon, except in case of some of tbe leaders. I claimed tbat on tbe surrender of their armies and arms, they had done what tbey could not all of them have been compelled to do, as a portion of them could have escaped ; but they surrendered in consideration of the fact that they were to be exempt from trial as long as they conformed to the obligations they had taken, and they were entitled

to tbat.

Q You looked on that in the nature of a parole, and held that they could only be tried

wben tbey violated tbat parole?

A. Yes; that was the view I took of the

matter?

Q. Tbat is your view still? A. Yes, sir; unquestionable.

Q. Did you understand tbat to apply to

General Lee? A. Certainly.

Q. Tbat was your understanding of the arrangement which you made with General

1 Lee?

; A. That was my understanding of an arrangement which Igave voluntarily. General e’s armv was the first to surrender, and I

believed

armies would surrender; and that we would thus avoid bushwhacking and a continuation of the war tn any way that we could make very little progress with, having no organized

amir- to meet.

(j You considered that tbe like terms were given by General Sherman to the armies that

surrei 'icred to him?

A. Yes, sir; and to all the armies that sur-

rendered after that.

<*. And you hold that so loug as they kept their parole of honor, and obeyed the laws, they were not subject to be tried by court? A. That was my opinion. I will state here that I nm not quite certain whether I am being tried, or who la being tried by the questions Mr. Eldrldgc—I am not trying any body. I am inquiring as to the President’s proclamation, and as to the views ho entertained. Did you give these views to the President? General Grant—I have stated these views to tho President frequently, and, as I have said, he disagreed with me in these views. He insisted on it that the leaders must be punished, and wanted to know when tbe time would come that these persons would be tried. 1 told him when they violated their parole. (j. Did you consider that that applied to

Jell'. Davis?

A. No, sir; ho did not take any parole. Q ^ did not surrender? A. No, sir. It applied to no person who was captured, only to those who were pa-

roled.

Q. Did the President Insist that General Lee should bo tried for treason?

A. He contended for It.

tj. And you claimed to him that the parole which General Lee had given would be vio-

lated in such a trial?

A. I did. I insisted on it that General Lee would not have surrendered his army and given up all their arms, if he supposed that after tbe surrender he was going to be tried for treason and hanged. I thought we got a very good equivalent for the lives of a few leaders tn getting all their arms, and getting themselves under control, bound by their oaths to obey tbe laws. That was the consideration which I Insisted we bad secured. Q Did the President argue tbat question

wlib you?

A. There was not much argument about It;

it was merely an assertion.

Q. Alter you bad expressed your opinion about it, did he coincide with you? A. No, sir, not then; he afterward got to agree with me on tdat subject. I never claimed tbat the parole gave these prisoners any political rights whatever. I thought that that was a matter entirely with Congress over which I had no control; that simply as Gco-eral-in-cbief, commanding tbe army, I had a right to stipulate for the surrender on terms which protected their live*; that is all I claimed. The parole gave them protection and exemption from punishment for all offenses not in violation of the rules of civilized warfare so long as their parole was kept. Q. Do you recollect at what time you had these conversation? Can you state any particular time, or up to any particular time

when they were finished?

A. The conversations were frequent after

the Inauguration of Mr. Johnson. 1 can not give the time. He seemed to be anxious to get at the leaders to punish them. He would say tbat the leaders of the rebellion must be punished, and that treason must be made odious. He cared nothing for the men In the ranks; the common men he would let go, for

they were led into it by the leaders. Q. Was that prior or subsequent to bis proc-

lamation.

A. It was subsequent, I think. Q. Do you recollect of at any time urging the President to go further in granting amnesty than he had gone in his proclamation? A. Just as I said before, I could not see any reason why the fact ot a volunteer rising to the rank ofGeneral should exclude him any more than any other grade; and with reference to the twenty-thousand dollar clause, I thought that a man’s success in tbe world was no reason for his being excluded from amnesty; but I reccollect afterward saying to the President that I thought he was right In that particular and that I Was wrong. Q. Was that said to you m conversation? A. I have beard him say it a number of times; he said it to me and be said it In my presence at the time that delegations were comiPtr up to him from the South. Q, Whatperson do you recollect as being present at the conversation—I mean what southern men? A. I did not know them at all. I recollect that on one occasion be talked to a delegation trom Richmond in that way; I do not know of any other. I never changed my views. If be was going to give amnesty to a soldier at all, I did not see why the fact of a man having risen to the rank of a general should be a reason for excluding him. Q. Did you not advise tbe President that it was proper and right be should grant am-

nesty ?

A. I do not think I said anything on that subject. I only looked at the proclamation as one which be was determined to issue, and, as I thought, susceptible of amendment or im-

provement.

Q. Did yon not give your opinion at all, that amnesty ought to be granted to those people to any extent? A. I know I was in favor of some proclamation of tbe sort, and, perhaps, I may have said so. It was n.cessary to do something to establish governments and civil law theft: I wanted to see tbat done, but I do not think 1 ever pretended to dictate what ought to be

done.

Q. Did you not advise?

A. Ido not think I ever did. I have given my opinions, perhaps, as to what has been done. I do not think I advised any course myself, any more than tbat I was very anxious to see something done to restore civil gov-

ernment m those States.

Q Did you ever give your opinion at all to the President, aa to what should be done? A. I do not think I did. After matters were done I waa willing to expreaa an opinion for or against any particular clause. Q. I suppose the President called on you for advice on these questions? A. I say I was in favor, and so expressed myself, of something being done to restore civil rule there immediately, aa near as it could be done under the arcnmaUaces. Q, Did you suggest anything?

By Mr. Woodbridqe-

Q. I understand your position to be this; that you did not assume to oitginat* or inaugurate any policy, but that whan any question came up, and your opinion was asked aa to what tbe Prsaident was going to do or had

dons, you gave an opinion.

A. That is It exactly, and I presume the

whole committee so understood. I have always attended to my own duties, and tried net to Inftrfere with other people’s. I was al-

ways ready toorfgtatae matters pel tbe army, but never waa willing tn

matters pertaining to Am atoll government of the United States. Wben I was asked ay opinion about what had been done, I was un-

willing to give it. 1 originated no plan, gested no plan, for civil government. I gave ay views on measures altar they

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been originated. I simply expressed an anxiety that something should be don* to gton some sort of eootrel down then. There were

no governments there when the over. X wanted to see soar •)

Fstsbttsbed, and wanted to see it . ly. I did not pretead to say hew it should he done, or in what Hera. I confined ay sugges-

tions entirely to war and peace.

By Mr. Eldridge—

Q. In expressing tho opinion that something should ho done, and dons quickly, did you aak* a nngofleu at what ought to b*

done?

A. So, Mr. I will state her* that.

q. Did you it was done? A. I w«o gresrat, I jitab, twice daring Mr. LiaeotB’s admtnlstratfon, when a proclamation that had been jnrspafsd VfM read. Alim

tary question, and not in reference to the civil

side?

A. Nothing further than that I was anxious that something should be done to restore some sort of government. Q, But you gave no advice as to what should be done? A. I gave no ad.vlce as to what should be

done.

Mr. Eldrldgc—State the conversation you

had on tbe su eject.

A. I have had repeated conversations tbe President, but 1 can’t specify conversations were any more

have already done.

Q.Dld you recommend certain generals of tbe confederate army to the President for pardoa

who fell within tbe exemption?

A. Yes, sir; I recommended General Longstreet, I think, a year and a half ago; and although I can not recollect the names of any body else, I think I recommended several

others.

Q. Do you recollect recommending J. C. French, a graduate of West Point? A. Yes, sir. Q. What part did he take in tbe rebellion ? A. He was a Brigadier General. Q. Was he a graduate of West Point. A. He was, and a class mate of mine. Q. Do you recollect recommending the pardon of G. H. Stuart? A. Yes, sir. Q. What part did he tg& iu ffre confederate service? > A. He was a cen1£ nJ aii, and ufck no very conspicuous part. t Q. Was be a ^aduate of West Point? A. I think •«. but not a cists mate of mine. Q. Was there any special circumstance in his case which you considered ? A. Yes, sir; I did at the instance of General Hunter and as a special favor to him; and I did it because it affected an inheritance. Stuart’s wife was a staunch, consistent Union woman throughout the war, notwithstanding her husband was in the rebel army. I think she never went South; she was as devoted to the Union cause as any woman whose husband was on our aide. There was considerable property in Maryland which had not been confiscated, which he inherits, and I thought that his wife and his children were entitled to that property; General Hunter thought so too. My recommendation was not out of any favor to General Stuart. Q. Were these circumstances presented to the President as a reason for pardon ? A. I do not know that tbey were or were not. I merely signed tbe recommendation. Q. Did that contain the statement you have

given?

A. I do not recollect whether It did or not. I do not know that I stated the circumstances

to the President.

Q. Dj yon recollect signing tbe recommendation of M. D. Ucton, a rebel Brigadier Gen*

eral?

A. No. sir; don’t recollect there being such a gentleman in the rebel service. Q. The report m tbe House is that be was pardoned on recommendation of General Grant and John Hancock. A. I do not recollect any such person as John Hancock, or tbe gentleman named. Q. Do you recollect Lloyd J. Dean , Beall)? A. Y'es, sir. (j. Did you sign an application, or make a recommendation for his pardon? A. I do not think the record will show that I recommended his pardon, but I am not sure. I know that he sent his application through me, with the request that 1 should send it to the President with some endorsement as to bis general character, which was as high, up to tbe breaking out of the war, as any man’s could be. Q. Were you acquainted with him t.p" us to tbe breaking out of the w^' A. Oh, yes, sir; for many years. I don’t think that 1 recommended Kim, but I may have done so. ( , Q. Do you recollect P. D. Roddy, said to be a rebel Brigadier General ? A. Yes, sir. I do not recollect what my indorsement was in Roddy’s case, but I know tbat if I bad it to do over again I would recommend his pardon very quickly; and I presume I did so. If be is not pardoned yet. I would bo very glad to sign a recommendation for him now. Q. Do you recollect any other officers of the rebel army who were recommended for pardon by you? A. No, sir; I can not mention any. Y'ou have already gone over a bigger list than I thought I bad recommended. I do not think I recommended General Pickett for pardon. I recollect receiving letter after letter from him, and letters were sent by me time and again in his behalf. He was especially uneasy lest he should be tried by a military commission, ou account of some men who were executed in North Carolina. I do not recollect of ever having talked to tbe President about him. I received one appeal after another in Pickett’s behalf, not only from him, but from officers in the army who had known him before the war. Q. Do you know whether he has been pardoned yet? A. I do not know. I was not m favor of his pardon, nor was 1 in favor of his being tried by a milItaiy commission. I think his great anxiety was to receive some assurance tbat he would not be taken and imprisoned for the offences alleged against him as a commander in North Carolina. He wanted to be able to go to work and make a living. It is likely I may have recommended tbat he be given assurance that he would not be arrested and imprisoned; do not think that 1 signed a recommendation for his pardon. Y'su have no right to ask what my opinion Is now. <}. Was he an active rebel officer? A. Yes. sir. He was charged with executing a number of North Carolina refugees who were captured with a garrison under General Wessels, of North Carolina. These men had gone there to escape rebel conscription, or. It may be. had deserted from the rebel army and were tried as deserters, and quite a number of them executed. Pickett was in command at the time, and a good deal was said as to bis having approved the proceedings. French was an active rebel officer, and served in the field. He, General Grant,bad not heard of him much in the field, but be was on the James river when General McClellan was in command. Q. Did you ever advise the pardon of Lee? A. Y'es, sir. General Lee forwarded his application for amnesty through me, and I forwarded it to tbe President, approved. I think it probable that I reccommenaed the pardon of General Johnston immediately after the surrender of his army on account of the address he delivered to it. which I considered in good tone and spirit. I recollect of speaking of tbat, and saying that I should be glad if General Johnston received his pardon on account of the manly manner in which he addressed his troops. To the Chairman—1 supposed his pardon would have a good effect; do not remember tbat I spoke to the Secretary 01 War on the subject. To Mr. Eldridge—I remember going at one time to see tbe President with General HiHyery but it was relative to a war appointment he wanted. I do not recollect that tha conversation went beyond the range of stating what I knew about Hillyer. I think I met Hillyer once or twice afterward when the President was present, but I have no recollection of say conversation with tbe President on the subject of amnesty at all. I have never recommended a general amnesty, and never wse in favor of it until the time shall come when it is safe to give it. To Mr. Williams—I do not recollect of ever having had any conversation on the subject of universal amnesty. Could not have recommended such a thing, because I never was In favor of it until the time snail come when it is safe. Q. You state that you differed with the President as to two points in this proclamation, but tbat bis views were afterward changed. State when the President’s mind underwent a change. A. It would be very hard, I reckon, ta&ufc; but it was along in the summer of 1865, not more than two or three menthe after the North

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spoei-hes last summer, as I ever beard him say at all upon that subject. I have beard him say. and I think I have beard him say twice in his speeches, that if the North carried the ^lections hy members enough, to give them, with the Southern members, a majority, why would tbey not lie th? Congress of the United States. I have heard him say that Several

times.

By Mr. Williams—When you gay the North you mean the Democratic party of the North,

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favor of the admission of the South. I

did not hear him say that be would recognize them as a Congress.* I merely heard him ask tbe question why would tbey not be the Congress. I beard him say that in one or two

speeches. Do not recollect where.

By Mr. Boutwell—Have you heard him

make a remark kindred to that elsewhere?

A. Y’es; I have heard him say that aside from his speeches, in conversation. I can not say just when; it was probably about that

same time.

Q. Have you beard him, at any time, make any remark on the suggestion concerning the legality of Congress, with Southern members

excluded?

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By Mr. Marshall—I understand you to say that you were very anxious at the close of the war that civil government should be estate lished in some form, and you so advised the

President?

A. I so stated frequently in his presence, but I advised no particular form of proceed-

ing.

Q. Were you present when this North Carolina proclamation was read in Cabinet? A. I would not be certain, but am of the opinion that the first lime I heard it read was in the presence of the President and Secretary of War only. Q. Did you assent to that plan ? A. I did not dissent from it. It was a civil matter; and, although 1 was anxious to have something done. I did not intend to dictate a plan. 1 do not think I expressed my opinion about it at the time. I looked upon it as a temporary measure until Congress should meet and settle tbe whole question, and that It did not make much difference how it was done so that there was a form of government there. I think I was present at the time by invitation of either the President or Secretary of War, I suppose I was free to express my views. I suppose the object was that I should express my views ii I could suggest any change. I do not think I was asked my views. I know that if Ihad been asked the question, I would have assented to that or almost any thing else that would have given stable forms of government to them. In reference to the opinion I gave the President on the amnesty proclamation, I think I have testified pretty freely. I told the President I disagreed with him on the clauses excluding brigadier generals, and as to the $20,000 clause. 1 do not say any thing as to the rest, whether it was too lenient or too stringent. Can state what 1 thought about it, but not wbat I said, 1 know tbat immediately after the close of the rebellion there was a very fine feeling manifested in the South, and I thought we ought to take advantage of it as soon as possible; but I am sure that there has been an evident change there. I may have expressed my views to the President; I do not recollect particularly. I do not suppose there were any persons engaged in that consultation who thought of what was being done at tbat time as being to last any longer than until Congress would meet and either ratify that or establish some other form of government. I know it never crossed my mind that what was being done was anything more than temporary. I understand this to be the view of the President and of everybody else. I did not know of any diff-rence of opinion on the subject. He was very anxious to have Congress ratify his views. Hr. Lincoln, prior to his assassination, had inaugurated a policy Intended to restore those governments. I was present twice before his murder wben a plan was read. The plan adopted by Mr. Jobnsen was substantially the plan which had been inaugurated by Mr. Lincoln as the basis for his future actioa. I don’t know that it wa» rerhatim th* •»mo ; T think the very p*p*r which I heard read twice wfille Mr. Lincoln was President, was the one which was carried right through. Q. What paper was that? A. The North Carolina proclamation. Q. Y’ou understood that Mr. Lincoln's plan was temporary, to be either confirmed or a new government set up by Congress? A. Y’es. And 1 understood Mr. Johnson's to be so too. That was my opinion. 1 never heard the President say the plan was be temporary, but I was satisfied every body looked on it as simply temporary, until Congress

met.

Q. Y’ou stated that the President’s proclamation was a continuation of the project submitted by Mr. Lincoln. I wish to inquire of you whether you ever compared these to ascertain whether they are the same or not? A. No, sir; I never compared them. I took them to be tbe very same papers. Tbey were substantially tbe same, if not tbe very same. [On July 20, General Grant, being recalled, said he had had a conversation with the President, in company with General Hillyer, but that nothing important transpired. General Grant also testified in reference to the Maryland election troubles. Tbe President bad determined to use the military in behalf of Governor Swann, but General Grant called attention to tbe law on the subject, which c! inged his views and determination. Eventually some troops, about 1,500, were sent to Baltimore to be used in case ol a riot. Their services were not needed.) According to the Montgomery, Alabama, Mail, an organ of the unreconstructed, the first article, first section of the new constitution, under consideration in the Reconstruction Convention now in session in that city should read as follows: ‘■Tot him we preach, For him we pray. For him we labor night and >lsv. That colored cnaa from Afrleay." The latest story about Senator Sumner and bis wife is by the Boston correspondent of the Springfield Republican, who writes that Mrs, Sumner returned from Europe last week, and hss taken rooms on Boston street, Boston, which, it is understood, she proposes to occupy during the winter; though a Washington paper affirms that she will preside at her husband’s table in that city. She is now on a brief visit to Lenox. The Cleveland Leader states that the “devil” of that office, sged fourteen, walked the entire distance with Weston from Cleveland to Boron, fourteen miles, keeping up with the pedestrian and arriving on time. By a singular coincidence the name of the ambitious youth is Weston.

GEO. CRAWFORD 4 CO., Commission Merchants, Importers aad Dealers in Pimater 2 _l,inM, Coamomt, . SomA. Mwnanaleo Stmao, Beat*, Etc., Etc., SO. 209 WALNUT STREET, Clmclwtl, Ohio. novtodSm

E. A. HUTCHINSON & 00,

Importer* *nd Jobber, of

H JL » O W ^1l RE,

No. 99 WnlBtMt Street,

Between TUird and A*earl Hta,.

cmcnnrATi, uovit) J&wSm

OHIO.

A ! John Dubois. W. H. Williams. •; J. 9. Augur. DUBOIS Ac AUOUK, Commission Merchants, No. 87 West Second Street, 1 CINCINNATI, OHIO. Mg** Liberal advances made <>n consignments of ; FLOUR, GRAIN AND PROVISIONS. ' novSO d3m

—pr.viM——

PBblitheM# Oil Portraits. W A9H.NGTO^ OVeSC Grant. Lee

TV Jackson. . Washington as s Free Mason. Now Masonic Chart, in oil colors-

- 0*nnsUow*s Chart.

Masterit Trestle ;8ea»d, or Masonic Carpet, six

bjf four feet.

AUo,manufacturers Insurance Company House Motes, Agency Signs. Paper Cutter Advtrtlsers,

Indelible Show Curls, etc.

Also, eU kinds of Lithographic Work. ocUK dtm n<>7 Continenua BvLk Ni0M Company-

CHARLES GRAHAM, ... : ’ ■hi.-*.*' ■ Manufacturer of IROM BRIDGES, ■UtllMtE CASTINGS, Bridge Bolts, Girders, Tasks, gasholders, . And all kinds of Wrought Iron Work, Nm. 274, STSsmd 278 Went Front St., ousrcnsnsrATiTtyTT Improved Machinery for tho manufacture jV|_ of Bridge Bolts, enables me to furnish them as tae lowest rates, (square Thread Screws eut. oottodSm

rs r'-y.fstM

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EXRBAGT BUCHU!

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Certmtm C«S% »9F ■ •«

.J 2:1 . njk 1 BLADDER,

GRAVEL,

KIDNEYS, ' ' .'j n Y DROPSY,

ORGANIC

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OCULIST AUD AUB1ST

.XN.Dl.4k D9R.POL.lM, XKSmKSKS the past tw* peon i» thM eMv, together with fourteen years experien^ to tg, Wb^

made°tn 0 the° ^ oJaoe ' °{>ereticw> wto-u desired “ — —

ms ami ho change for an examination and aa opinion and no charge for unsuccessful treatment. Operating Booms—SI* West Maryland street up stairs. Poetoflce Box IMS aagtl Olytopootodp

CARPETS, ETC.

WEAKNESS,

FEMALE

JF. «2. K1KHOFF A CO., Fashionable Tailors, Na» 204 Wain at Street, octSC dSm CINCINNATI.

COLD PENS.

“The Pen is tJigiitier tliaa the Sword." THE GOLD PEN, BEST A.\D CHEAPEST OF PENS. Morton’s Gold Pens, IKE BEST PERSJB THE WORLD. J'l//- sc,‘a at J\ r o. 25 Jifaiden£ane y A m- - York, aud by every difly app<>i»tr(t Ar/cnt at the saner pr/rrs. jiffi/Scs, ::c/.rs /to 'Yens stamped with the .Vcti/te or Trade-mark of ary otter: therefore, where an rlpe/icy is established, the public _ null be best suited, and at the sa.ee prices, by calling oh the Agent; iu all other peaces those wi hijtg the .Horton Ten, must send to I/eadtjuarters, where their orcers wili receive prompt attention, i/ accompanied with the cash. A t‘gto/opf/e, with full descrip’if sizes aud pieces, sent on >■- ‘reipl of letter postage. A. MORTON. nova dAwfim fYMINA TEA STORE. IMEBESmfi TO TEA DRINKERS.

JOHN C. BVERKLE, Manufacturer and Dealer in LADIES’ FANCY FURS, GENT'S PUBS, 610VES, CAPS' S LEIGH ROMS, ETC.,

13T

Malm St., batwoomTMlrdaadFwarUt,

ci tNJCJiisrisr axx.

TjiUBS cleaned, repaired aud altered at shortest F notice. Tbe highest oa&h price paid tor all kirn ■ “

COMPLAINTS,

ttENERAL

DEBILITY,

kinds of Purs.

ocats dim

CHAS. S. CBEEVER,

Manufacturer of PAPER BOXES, 22S main Street, CINCJLNNA.’XT, OHIO, octt t» l

JAo, HAMILTON A CO., SHIRT MANUFACTURERS, And dealers in GENT’S FURNISHING GOOD*. Ifil Main Street, four doors above Fourth, CINCINNATI. MP^Sbirta made to order. oot8 ddm

BAM. LOWENTHAL A CO., Manufacturers and Importers of O I O -A. T& S ,

And wholesale dealers in

Leaf and Plug Tobaccos, No. IG Main Street, below Pearl,

CINCINNATI, OHIO.

An t all Diseases of the

URINARY ORGANS,

Whether existing in

AlfUo or Vemale,

From whatever cause originating, and no matter

OF HOW LONG STANDING.

Diseases of these organs require the use of a

DIURETIC'.

supported from these source*, and the

leal (Ii aud Happine*»

Ami that ot

POSTERITY,

Depends upon prompt uae of a Be liable Remedy

KXTRACT

IB XT C IK TJ !

Established upwards of eighteen years.

NEW STOCK or CARPETS, WALL PAPER Window Shades. OIL CLOTH. Etc., Etc.

We take pleasure iu skewing on Goods, and Sell them a* Cliea anv bouselu the city

GALL X RUSH,

191 East Uashlngtou Street,

aug37 dSrn

Opposite Court House.

UNIVERSITY.

ST.

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decline in r J7ea»!

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PREPARED EY

U. T. HKJUItBOL.lI, l»ru«fflst.

MARY’S ACADEMY,

Notre Dame, Indiana.

TIT DIBS will be resumed at this institute

* Monday, September a. ia “' T Tor catalogues, address Jyto dtiljel ’«6 MC

MOTHEH StPKRlOK.

LUNCH.

EXTRA FREE LUNCH,

Tuesday, September 29,

\ ND on every other day in the week, at hall

Xx. past one o’cioc-

sep28 riSm

MATHIAS EMEXEGGER.

ill and 113 East Washington street.

PROFESSIONAL. J% IN. FOUAHT, IN. D., Eclectic JPhysiciftiY^ SUKttJSOS AND OlBoeNo. 130 -'•o. 1*8) North Pennsyl wuees, one and a half squares North oi Postollice, Indianapolis, Indiana OSce hours from seven to nine a. u.,uno three and seven to ni»» » u lebM dly

BLACKING.

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THECHINA TEA STORE

(ICstnbliHlied in IMSid.)

T&ADE

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MARK-

INSURANCE.

9KARTIS, HOPKINS A FOLLETT,

(OFFICE, NEW .JOURNAL BUILnOtG),

Represent the following excellent Companies:

Carolina proclamation of May 20.

To Mr. Wood bridge—When I said that Hie President’s views underwent a change, I meant that while 1 waa eenteqanM for tbe rights which these rebel paroled sMdftafi bad, he was insisting on It that they sheuM be punished. ! ’Yu To Mr. Eldridge—Any correspondence I ever had with the President is official, ana can be furnished. I bad to make frequent indorsements on the subject of the rights of those paroled prisoners. Th* only corresp that I coaid have had oh thesnMect <S ty, waa when I recommended n.cn for pardon, as in tbe ease of French and uihega, of aU of which I kept«»pies, and will ftirnteh them. I recollect the North Carolina proclamation, which was tin first one gtvtng a State gorarament; waa present when it was road, and ft was in the direction I wanted. I was snxjpaa to see a temporary government there, and I dM

not want to see anarchy.

Q Did you give any opinion in favor of that proclamation? . , A. I did dot give ray aptaion against it. 1

waa in favor of civil government until CooSS. e T»^« XSMZSrzt no form of civil government whatever. I was not in favor ot any thing or opposed to any sattx£isvg$&st$& trad to give mj jadgincntaa tojnjtat it should

I wao permcMy^wlllingto foayn ft to the

civil department. I asked bo person what 1 should do ta my dattas—I was willing to take

o By views as to what 1 Igovmareatshanld do. I o« Q t^tsapsww ond General HamlltontaTexas. ~ eolleet that there wa •raoss. Tbe others tonTgomnora. I MBDpARsmsqually *"^y MfcVl opinion ss to tbe rights and eral Lea aad his sAdtors.

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( . Z\.., q- Assets. bn. Co. North America, Phils £1,880,145 81 . : latsmatioual Insurance Co., N. T. ... .1,444,866 17 Continental Insurance Co.. X. T 1,873,711 78 BMerpriae Ins. Co., Cincinnati 1,146,tie 53 Yonkers and New York Ins. Co., X. Y. . 676,860 Ii Merchants Insurance Co., Chicago 550^60 37 City Fire Ins. Co., Hartford, Conn 460,00a 00 Northwestern Mutual Life, Wicousin. .SjMO.tB N Accident Insurance Co., Columbus, O. .1,000,000 00 Capital Represented.! 18 9o*4d9n ' ■

TVTITH many thanks to tne public for past V V favors, we would aiMonnoe that wo are now receiving a carefully selected invoice of CHOICE GREEN, BLACK AND JAPANESE TEAS?

Purchased directly from tbe importers, and with special attention to tbeir qualities in the sop. We sever ofTer a necemsl taamd stock. We merer pmrcMmse m maixe<L Tern. We merer Day m colored Tern. We merer have handles! a damaged Tea.

An experience of many years in your midst; a careful attention to tbe Tea trade, and a thorough knowledge of tho Tea business, enables ns to say with confidence tbat We will comtlmme to seD the Meet TtSAS Imported a* the lowest protits i

way, eontxes us to pit towing prices, which j‘t " . Are as lew as aijr Vfcaleaale lease c*h afford te sell ike saae q«alities by tbe largest gtaitltles. Ms 91 49, 91 90, 91 so; very host 92, . Gnapowdor^Graom,) 91 hoot. 99. ^Tomm* Hyuom (Groom,) 91 90; choto ■yoom, (Groom,) am dMtm choleo ■woet Toa, amd Will omK the moot fastid loan. Price 99* tineatTht. (B4 * C *’ ) **, 91 90* 91 90; jaesusssri ,w sw ■U—, »l »o-.»l «»,. W M. «»■_ w. and purchase mamo BmftlStamh * mixed Groom aud tuOh, fit, 1 99; beat *9 (These are our own mixtures, and are recommended.) cr; ~} - ifhw h . 2'.-■tea i •. We also keep* carefully retoetedatookof Mocha, Java and Mo OoftMB, LOVERING'S REFNEQ SUGARS, ran CnuS ta* Otoi* triCU, ■ " 1> :• .7 •. ’ : CROSS* AND BLACRWRLL'S FICKLRS, » »(£ "

manufacturers ot r Fine Toilet Soaps, AND J? e 1* fum e r i e s , 97 Walnut Street, oc« dSm CINCINNATI.

WILSON «i CLARK, Manufacturers of the Universal Shirt, And CISTS’ FURNISHERS, 8. *. CORNER FOURTH AND WALNUT STS., Cincinnati, OMlo. Shirts and Underwear made to Order. Agents for the BemUt Patent Shape Collar. ootS-dSm

OHIO MACHINE WORKS, (Successors to Lee A Leavitt,) Have on hand and are manufacturing to order, POKTABUE AND STATIONARY steam; eivguives, TYOILERS. Portable Circular Bow Mills, R. H. -D Steam’s Patent Eccentric Head Blocks, shingle Machines, Stare Machines, Saw Mandrils, Saw Qummera, Mangers and CnStofitOf all ktnG made to order. M5r5asaS7?£?t!af““*‘ «•*>■«»> j^*s?EP^j*siass SsasycKaBSS” *“““■ Works-Comer Walnut street and Hamilton rood.'!: ■ ’ ■ Business Oflce—180 West Second street, oct7 dSm CINCINNATI, OHia

McHHKRY * CARSON, £AS HITDIi An IAMP D1P0T, • FaurtM amd i«2 Kulm 9tree«, ciKcircvATZ, amo.

Dealers in _

ChaRdelfert mm* Lamp*,

ENCHANT T^MLOW. BARKER,

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REMOVAL.

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swiff, BtGHAM A GOODHMT,

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THE CHINA TEA 8T0BE,

COMMISSION MEHCHANT8, * - - And whoioiaig gad retail dealete in Floor, Feed, Etc Ik ntpxli ' r i '■

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MERCHANT TAILOR, . tit ■ftq.ji a '

Opposite 0*1 PUtoWt* Ball.

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591 BKOADWAY, NEW YORK,

104 SOUTH TENTH 9T, PHILADELPHIA, PA.

9®“Sold by all Druggists.

HELMBG^D’SFLUID EXTRACT BUCHU Is pleasant In taste and odor, free trom all Injuxioaa properties, and Immediate in its action.

HJCLMBOLD’S EXTRACT BUCHU fives health an vigor to the frame, and bloom to the poUd cheek. Debility is accompanied by many Manning symptoms, and if no treatment is submitted to, consumption, insanity, or epileptic Its ensue.

Famous Raven’s Wing Blacking’, THE 66 N © I? Ins XJltra , ,, la carrying everything before it. teewtern Headquarter*, 6? Walnut Street, - - Cincinnati. octto d8m

WHOLESALE GROCERS. A. JONES & CO., WHOLESALE OROCERS, Nos. TA and T9(Sehnuirs new otoch. • South Meridian Street, Indianapolis, Indlantt.

FOR XON-RETENTION OB INCONTINENCE of Urine, Irritation, Inflammation, or Ulceration of tho Bladder, or Kidneys, Diseases of the Prostate Glands, Stone in the Bladder, Calculus, Gravel or Brick Duet Deposits, and all Diseaaea of the Bladder, Kidneys aad Dropsical Swellings. BB*Ute Helmboid's Fluid Extract Buohu.

A. JOXM. a. clat. B. r. JONIS. s. w. zone.

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ENFEEBLED AND DELICATE CONSTITUTIONS, of both sex os, rse Helm bold’s Extract Bucbu. It will give brisk and energetic fooling, and enable yon to sleep well. ■tii

TAKE NO MORI UNPLEASANT AND UNSAFE REMKDIES for unpleasant and dangerous diseases. Use Helm bold’s Extract Boehm and Improved Rose Wash.

THE GLORY OF MAN IS STRENGTH. Therefore, too nervous and dehllltotod should Immediately use HohnboM’a Extract Buchu.

MANHOOD AND YOUTHFUL VIGOR are regained by HoUaboM’s Extract Buchu.

SHATTERED CONSTITUTIONS STORED bv HelmbolPs Extract Buchu.

FOSTER, HOLLOWAY & CO.. 'WMOX^BSA.r.K C3-K, O O E K/S, COMMISSION AND ST0RA6E MERCHANTS. Cement, Plaster, Flour, Fish and Salt Dealers, Irma Front, Noe. es and TO South Delaware street, INDIA. Y* OH M . OOtSdSm

BOOTS AND SHOES.

Bricltnm*9 celebrated Cmstom Boots and Mboea oro oold, amd •very pair wsarrantofi, by K- H. Bayo A Co~*3 Kaafl Wabblag^om street. Tbe beat Is tbe cheapest.

filmyo's Mhoe Store bays ms low ns Baa lowest, and sells ms cheap as tbe cheapest. This store has the largest stock and most complete >nt la tbe city.

HELMBOLD’S EXTRACT BUOHU AND IMPROVED R09R WABB eer* stcret and ddtaataiiaondsM is all toato atogas at UMfo sx> pmi^MMto or as change to IRA m toimre nfones, aad no axpoaure. It foytoatot to tosto and *9ar. laaodlato to Ita aettoo, and *0* boot aD injurious propOTtiM.

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CLASS. .ESTJABLISKED ISdeL B. HE.TIINGRAY A CO., MANTTVAOTCKERS of rUHT, HIES AJiD BLACK GLASS, .? J BUCH AS Drufgist Shop Furmiturc, Brarndy, Fiesks, Bomljsbna, And all atyita of COAL OIL LAMPS, ETC, He* 90Bast Second street, aovttaam civeiititATi, gbi*-

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For nsxt fiflly days I will teu Kl to bVfcCM ,■ ,•••}'- bjC ■■ ii od A a; I _ V ■ • OrmrtmmU at Erst Cfist.

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