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,1 m nvl h friend but, as between '''y.r ams and J.ieno al Jackson," nei 4i.rtCN n hi friends dmihttd - f m - .,,.,,.,.1 J S. m In cnrnnrt. nnd f it had been Uno1" n on the day that Con-crt-s 11 et that Mr Oav would net be iTtHtm and the vote I ail then hern tak.-n, (considetiug Mr Crawford's ill ti n result would have been the a-e n-s when the election was bel l. If Mr Clay's fiirtuis were haliing 1 1 -(wecn two opinion?, on the morning of t!v;' election, how happens it the charges of (Ya'.ul, corruption, bargain, am; sale, were rno. ten d;vs or a fortnight he lore th.it time? ,'iuv evidetu e If General Jac.kson in his possession to fi!ai"!i hi? declaration, why does he withhold it from the prhlic? Very respectfully vours, I " V.. WHITTLESEY. T. fMj'i-sHTj Eq. Mn-vfrtt, O. .1 Slfft, 1827 DfarSir; Your favor of tbe 2nd int-t. T'n? pjt received, giving a statement o' tiM contents of a letter said to hav been w i ll ten by a highly respectable Virginian, relative to a statement sail! to have Iven made by Gen. Jackson, on ti e subject of the late Presidential Election. Before 1 proceed, in justice to the General, will say that I do not believe that he ever made the declaration allu ded toby the writer of said letter, for tbe General was there when the Election took place; and must inevitable have known that such a statement would carry falsehood on the very face of it. It was wcil known that gome of the friends of Mr. Clay, from Ohio, would not, in any event, give their support to Gen, Jarkson, because Air. Adams was their second choice, and believed to be the second choice of a majority of tin people of this State; and further. Gen. Jackson must know that two weeks previous to the election. Air. Clay and his friends were as-sailed in a vulgar and ungentlcmanly manner, for declaring their intention fo vote for the Present Executive; yet this proposition is said to have been made to the friends f General Jackson, that on certain condition?, "the General should be President in one hour," which, if true, must have been made only one hour before tbe Canvass took place in the House. This statement of itelf needs no refutation except' for the respectable source from which "it is said to have emanated. 1 was in the House, I believe, every day of that Session at which the President was elected; and have no hesitation in saying, that so far from making any proposition, or overture, were the friends of Mr. Clay, in favor of the General, that had the friends of the General made such a proposition, we would have cousidered it as an indignity ofleied to our integrity and understanding. I could not have voted for the General, in any event, for many rea otjg two of whh;lil will mention: First, believed him lar inferior to all the other Candidates in point of talents: Second, I had doubted his being a real friend to the Tariff to' protect the manufactures ctf our on i ur.tr. 1 will also mention that i had entertained d!'j''ts ol his b -ina friendly to internal improvements under the direction of the Gc i r ral Government. These opinion hove been, within th. present year, v iifit d bv declarations, and the course pujMiedbv the General's leading friend.and his silence on I no subject, alter being s olicited to ro ne out. I am, dear Sir, with respect, your obev'bnt servant, M. HARTLEY. T. IValkins, Esq. St. Co,wr7.1 !M, 1827. Sin: Yours of the. 1st. instant was received the Tth, and in answer to your irrpmy I irankly stale to you that if any by the friends of Clay to those of Gen. Jackson, l-had no knowledge of it; and 1 was one of the friends of Clay; I therefore, believe the report to be without an honest foundation. Respectfully yours, &e. - JOHN PATTERSON.' T. Hit'cins, E.-s. JUm!f!rr!i'z, (Lai. i .'lugmt 12. 1827. Sia: I have been constantly from home for some weeks past, and have not had leisure until this morning to answer your

letter, re-j.uest.ing ne to st.ito what I know a. id believe about the charges maJt? against Air. Clay and Mr. Adams, t.y icn. Jackson and his friends. '1 iie letter voa rekr to, dated Nashli'le, and said to be lirst published in the Favetieville Oierver," was read bv ne some time since, in ame of my n'ew-papei s, and thrown. nsUc. 1 have searched lor it, but cannot find it. The letter ol General Jackson to Carter Beverly, dried llenn.t ige, Juno Gth, i 827, be'ore ine,nnd I shall refer lo it in my icplv to you, under a belief that it ouUai'S She substance of the accusations auide hy Uoveiljr in hia Nashville later. i uo !iot know el my own knowledge,

t nor', ti are I' been , informed ' hy .otheW, each as are sVoketi or bV'"".?l Jackton In his letter to Bran 'r ;kr Ibe rettS of tt any kind n. ei were made by Mr; Adams his fr iends to Air. Clay or hia fritnds; ot by Mr. Clay or bis fiiends, to Gen. Jackson or his friend?. I do not know, nor do believe that Mr Adams or his friends made overtures or offers, directly or indirectI to Air. Clay or his friends to make him Secretary of Slate, if he and his riend would unite in aid of the election of Air. Adams; nor do 1 know, or believe, that any pledge or promise of any kind, was made by Mr. Adams or his" fiiends, to Mr. Clay or bis friends, to procure his aid in the ele ction. I never beard from Air. Clay, or ar.y of bis friends, or any one else, that he was willing to vote for Gen. Jackson, if tbe General would say, or any of bis friends for him, "that Mr. Adamshould not be conti:;ned Secretary ol State; nor do I know or believe that Air. Clay ever expressed a willingness or any of his friends for him, to sup port or vote for Gen. Jackson, if he i' ould obtain the office of Secretary ol State under him. I do -not know, nor do 1 believe, that any overtures, or offers of any kind, were made by Air. Clay or bis friends, to Air. Adams or his friends, to vote f r him or support him, if he would aiake Air. Cbij Secretary of Slate; or ;o Gen. Jackson or his fiiends, to vote for him or support him, if he could obtain the office of Secretary ol State un dor him; nor do I believe that Air. Clay would have taken office under him if he had been elected. I cannot believe the statement made to General Jackson, nor do I believe that Mr. Clay made, or authorized any of hi9 friends to make overtures to him, directly or indirectly, because I know that Mr. Clay intended to vote against dm. I know Air. Clay had determined to vote for Mr. Adams as early as October 1824, it the election should devolve upon the House of Representatives in Congress, with his own name excluded from the list. In this I cannot be mistaken, because he told me so expressly. He may have forgotten what he said to me, but the substance of the conversation is fresh in memory with myself, and I will endeavour to detail such portions of it, as will evince his prepossessions in favor of Mr. Ad ( ams, as well as his fixed intention fo vote for him. Mr. Adams, we all know, was elected on the 9lh of February, 1825. The prevailing opinion, you will recollect, as early as January 1824, if not earlier, was, that none of the candidates would obtain a majority of the whole number of electoral votes, (201,) and it was expected as a matter of course, that the eventual election would devolve upon the House of Representative. The fiiends of Air. Clay believed thai he would go before the Houe as one of the three highest on the list of candidates; but this was not certain, and on the contrary it was reasonable to suppose that ho might fail. In looking forward to a failure on his part, and to the possible events and consequences which might follow, I was frequently brought to consider which of ihe other three candidates ought to be preferred as a Chief Alagistrate of the nation. It is enough to say, without dwelling upon matters concerning my self, that 1 concluded as early as February 1824, to vote for Air. Adams a-i a second choice in the event of Air Clay's exrtusion from the House; subject at all times to a change of opinion for such reasons as ought to influence the judge ment of a public agent, desitous ofdi. charging his public trusts faithfully and honestly; and intending at the proper season to cor.sult fully and freely with the test ol my colleagues; holding mysell at libeity all along to consider the claims of Air. Crawford, if his health should he restored, which, however, I thought improbable, if not impossible. It so happened, that the honorable Robert Trimble, then a Judge of the. Federal Court for the District of Kentucky, and now one of the Justices of the Supreme Court of the United States, eame to the City of Washington, in the month of February 1821, and I well remember that I conversed with him fieely upon the Bilbject of the election. 1 informed him of my preference for Air. Adams as a second choice, and explained lo him the principles and views of policy which would govern me in making the selection. 1 gave him my opinion of Mr. Adams as a statesman, and probably went eo far as to mention some of my objections to General Jackson. The recollections of Judge Trimble on the subject have been asked for, and if received in time shall be enclosed." ' l-v , My preference lo Mr. Adams was strengthened by the occurrences of the sesMau ending in May 1824. It was manifest to me from what I sy & heard that the bitterness of opposition to measures in favor of agriculture, in ternal i ;c prove me nts, and domestic man uftcUres had increased, and was in-

cV Aifnp in the Seufh, r.d t was eatfif)l that the American System of po'icy irtftadlriri our Western interests in it, .CJfJ betnstained in Congress, JiP&fjI Jt& ro-operationj of members in favor of the System froba the Eastern States, as well as from the Middle and the Western States. I concluded, and rightly too, I think, as time will show, that the best, if not the only way to ensure the success of the American System, and sustain our Western interests in it, would be to elect Air. Adams, if Air. Clay should be defeated. In this state of mind I met Air. Clay at Frankfort, in Kentucky, about the 1st of Octohe' , 1821. It was my im pression at the time, from the news ol the day, and other souicee of information, that Air. Craw ford would pet some sixty or seventy electoral votes, & that Air. Clay would he left out of the House. We conversed some time about the election; and in the course of convetsatio'ye'tor speaking freely to him about hfs own chances and prospects, I asked him which of the other candidales he would vote for in the event of a failure on hi? part. He said, that the ereuf supposed would place him in a delicate attitude before the House and

nation: that a choice amone nis com petitors under any aspect of it, would he painful and embarrassing: That, from recent information, the restoration of Air. Crawford's health was entirely hopeless, and that he could not consis tently with his principles vole tor uen. Jackson under any possible circumstan ces. I gave it as my opinion, that Gen. Jackson was not qualified to fill the station, and discharge its multifarious and complicated duties, foreign and domestie t " thUe Agreed, and added, that the impartial world would probably consideF Mr. Adams better qualified than either Jackson, Crawford, or him self. That at nil events, (Crawford aside,) the difference in point of qualification was bo clear and- obvious in favor of Adams, that his motives might be questioned by impartial men, if he should vole for Jackson; and that he would be unable to defend tho vote, because in his own judgment it would afford just ground of censnre. He made several objections to Gen. Jackson, and in the course of bis remarks, expressed himselfdecidedly hostile to the selection of .Military men to administer the civil government of free nations. No Nation, he 6aid, had ever 7ii1i;rAU'fiti'i'ty The warning of history were against it. He considered it a bad example, and a dangerous experiment, and declared that he would not give it the sanction of a precedent in our government by any act of his. He turned the conversation to tbe .Seminole war, and to the occurrences connected with it referred particularly to the constitutional principles which were brought forward and supported by himself and Air. Lowndes and others, in the course ol the debate upon that subject, and declared that he could not consent lo place Gen. Jackson at the head of the nation, after seeing him trample upon the Constitution, and violate the rights of humanity, as he had done at the head of the army, in the progress ol that -1 made some reference to the supposed difference of opinion between himself and Mr. Adams about the Treaty of Ghent. He said in reply, that it had been greatly magnified by the friends of his competitors for electioneering purposes that it ought to have no influence in the vote which he might be called upon to give that if he was weak enough to allow his personal feelings to influence his public conduct, there wpuld bo no change in his mind on that accountr-because he was then upon much worse terms with Gen. Jackson about the Seminole war, than he Could ever be with Mr, Adams about tire Treaty of Ghent but that in the selection of a Chief Magistrate for the union he would endeavor to disregard all - private feeling, and look entirely to the interests of the country, and the safety of it. institutions. He spoke at large upon the subject of agriculture, internal improvements, and domestic manufactures said, that he was 'pledged to the nation in support of the American System of policy, and of all measures favorable to it that his own election had been advocated by his friends in part upou that ground, and that he would consider it a duty to himself and fiiends to strengthen the great cause in which they were all ena;ed, as much ns possible. In this respect he was satisfied, he said, that Mr. Adams was the best choice, and iljiihero ww no other ground of preference, he would feel himself bound on hat account to vote for him. - I vlonot remember whether I informed A.l Clay of my own piefrretice for Air. Rdarnsatthat time or not, but aai iuclitiid'.to think I did not, and I am satisfied thlt I kad not done so on any previous pejasion. It i3 known to me that j 5 Air Clay had a similar conversation la- j 'bout thilsamfe 'period, with a citizen of Kentur!,' tho stands as hi::u as any man 5a it ti whom he made known

his intention to vote for Mr. Adams, and gave various reasons why he would do 89 declaring at.the same time that he would ltl yote for Gen. Jackson inny possible event. The reasons given by him to tbe gentleman alluded to, eo far as they have been detailed to me, are similar to those which he assigned to me in favor of his preference for Ad. ams. 1 am not authorized to name the person alluded tobut have no doubt that he would willingly furnish a statement of the conversation which Air Clay held with htm, if it should be considered necessary or mateiial. I should have thought 6trange of it, if Air. Clay had voted for Gen. Jackson after saying what he did of military men, and military violence and rashness, in the debate upon the Seminole

war; and still more strange after declar ing as he has oUr-n done m my hear in the most soleir.n manner, that the Constitution had been trampled down and violated by the lawless arm of military .power- in that, war; ana stanger still, after advancing the opin ions and principles, and giving me voies which he did on that occasion; nut i should have been astonished beyond measure if he had supported Gen. Jackson for the Presidency, after what he said to me at Frankfort on the sub ject. A vote, so much at war with his principles and inclination, and 6o en tirely contrary to his better judgement, and his known avowed intention would have left me in amazement, and I am bold to say, that I should have turned 'my back upon him and voted for Adams, even if I had been in a minority of the delegation from the State. I say, that 1 would have turned my back upon him. and 1 would certainly have done so, because, knowing what I did, 1 should have been compelled to doubt the integrity of his character, and the soundnasss ol his political principles, If he had voted for Jackson and taken of fice under him, my amazement would have had no limits. A change of principles and preference so sudden and singular and so inconsistent with his previous character and conduct, could not have ben explained upon ordinary approve able motives of human action; and I should have been driven to suspect the existence of extraordinary seducements, and censurable compliances. Voting as he has done, I still consider him as 1 always did an able, independent, fearless statesman; uncortupted, and incorruptable. 1 am satisfied in my own mind, that the imputations of corruption made a gainst Air. Clay and Air. Adams by their enemies, are entirely groundless, Speaking for myself, I am bound to say in justice to both of them, that I have no knowledge of any fav:t or circum stance connected with them, or either of them, directly or indirectly, which throws a shade of doubt upon the fair ness of their conduct iu the election. Some days after the election, Mr. Ad ams made an offer of the Department of State to Air. Clay, and requested f conference with him. The course pur eucu ujr atxi . iium iticii. uiiig uiiu. he concluded to accept the office, for i ,vi f't f . u : .,..;' bids the belief that he had any previvious assurances from Mr Adams, or that there was any previous understand between them on the subject. Witb assurances of regard, I am, Sir, yours very respectfully, DAVjD TRIMBLE. Tobias Watkin?, Esq. Paris, (Ken.) August 13, 1827. Dear Sir: In consequence of my absence from home, I did not receive your letter of the 8th July, until after my return from the Court at Columbus, Ohio, on Alonday evening, the 9th inst. You request me to state the substance of a conversation which took place between us at the City of Washington, in February or March, 1824, after having visited Air. Crawford together, in relation to the then next Presidential election. The occasion has passed over in which a statement of that conversation would have been of any direct service to you, yet, as it may be some satisfaction to you to know what my recollection is of the conversation alluded to, I will state it. While in the City, in February and Mirch, 1821, I visited Air. Crawford several times. I recollect, perfectly, lhat, on one occasion, y'ou and I went together to pay him a visit of respect, as we both entertained for him a very high regard. In going to, and return i"g from, Air. Crawford's we conversed freely about his health, and on the sub ject of the approaching Presidential election, and 1 have a distinct recollection of what passed, after leaving him, on our way loour lodgings, at Brown's. You asked me whaM.thought of Air. Crawford's health, and of the probability of its restoration, so as to enable him to dischai 7e tli duties of President, t answered, tha mv opinion was deciftvely against the probility of his recovery, so as to be able to undergo the lanors, ana aiscnarge trie duties of the office: aad that I thought his restoration

so as to justify hli election, mibt L considered hopeless. 1 addij rny r or.. viction that he tould not recover, tha hl9 life would be 'end anger i c, m,j,; he quit his present office, and bftt rity with all its tares and troubles fcl hind him. You txpres ed yodrV, concurrence; and remarked, that y0a had wished to know whether rny deliberate views of his condition corresponded with those you had previous, formed. The conversation turi.ed cc.

on tbe probability of the election J President con.ii g, ultimately, t,,fr,re toe House of Representative?. f concurred in opinion, that, from th number of candidates, it was improbabij any one would have a niajc-riiy of fti Electoral votes; and tbat it Air. Craw fold's friends continue to entertan hopes ol his recovery, and to pie?s"b claims to the Presidency, iiwnsdoubtfn whether he or Air. Clay would be K: out of the House. You expressed thee pinion that, (Clay aside,) Air. Adam was the safest and best choice, and (hi ine irieuuH or agr rcunure, inicnw m provements, and domestic manufacture ought to unite upon him in the everJ of Air. Clay's exclusion from the hx&l You remarked, that you had once en tertained some prejudices against Mi Adams as a statesman, but that t!i more you had seen of him as a stateman the more you had been convince these prepossessions were not wti founde d. You alluded to the tariff b of 1824, then under discussion in Col gress; expressed your determination support it as a system of protection domestic manufactures, and said, if y 6hould have to vote, as a member of til House of Representatives m the ele lion of President, you would vole fj the man who, and whotse frieudj rJ should think most favorable to wl you called the American Svstem. Vj said lhat Mr. Clay had been the ere champion of lhat system; that if losi mm, you mougin mr, Atiums an his friends, next most favorable to that you could not, and would not vc for any man who, and whose frien you believed to be united in opposit: to it; that some of Air. Adr ma' fiienl were opposed to it, but muiiy of the in favor of it, and that you believed 1 opinions weie favorable to the syste." I remarked, that it was, perhaps t early to make up a decisive opir.ioii, the event of the election coming 1 1 J the House of Representatives ti the views of men, and of parties, in s ference to these Tereat national itul ests of agriculture, internal irnprmj ments, and domestic matitiiactun would probably be further develop before tne election. lou answers true; but that you had thought mu upon the system for their encoura: ment and protection; that you hadmal up your opinion upon it; and you adds emphatically, "My creed is fixed as the principles which must iufluente nf decision. lo other conversations with mc at t't City, I understood you as indicating si(J liar views; but in the particular convei sation above detailed, you weie nun explicit than in any other; and the vei emphatic manner in which you co; eluded your remarks, made a strci and lasting impression on my memor and satisfied me, lhat m the events con contemplated, you would vofe tor Mi Adams, unless something should traupirc before the election, to change yon opinion of him, in reference to your I vorite system With sentiments of sincere rcgar your obedient servant, ROBERT TRIA1BLE Mr. David Trimble. Concluded in our next. From Deleware, we learn, tba after five days' vain effort to uiaK choice of a speaker of the llouot Uepreseothtives, the Lezislatu was driven to the alternative q adjourning sine die, and returnin to their homes, without bavin been able to transact any publi business. This obstinate and equal division of twenty members inti two parties of ten members eacli we are assured, as well by neff papers as by letters, va9 brougt about by three persons, chose from Sussex county as friends t the Administration, bavins; vote throughout in favor of an Opposiliof candidate for bpeaker, one of tn; three being himself the candidal and voting for himself! Ve 1 not recollect any thing in bistoijy to parellel this. Cifi. Gaz. The Three Stares of Life A XT t i j t mijIJ xouin ii devoted to pleasure, mi" dlo age to ambition, and old a to avarice; and these are the tore general principles to be found if mankind; some times ascending 1 honorable motives, and nornetim descend to disbonorablo actionsH Addison

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