Daily Tribune, Terre Haute, Vigo County, 1 October 1915 — Page 7

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«om recently in a local paper, being aocused of graft, were called and denied the charges. They were not cross-examined.

John Guess, of South First street, deputy sheriff under Krietenstein, first witness. Batt, questioning.

Q.—Were you over at Precinct C, of Sugar Creek township, commonly known as the Taylorville precinct, in the latter part of the afternoon on the day. of the last eleotlon?

A.—Yea, sir. Q.—At any time In the latter part of the: afternoon did you see Mr. Gossom over there?

As—I seen a man they said was him. Q»—Who said it was him? A—I didn't know who it was, but ~a bunch of them said it was him.

Q.—What ware they doing at the time you saw them? JL—Ba the polls, voting.

Q.—Were they going in or coming: out? JL—They were up In there.

Q.—-Do you know how» many there were? A.—No, I saw two or three of them.

Q.—-What time of the day was this? Av—Along late in the evening. Qi—Can you approximate about what time?

A.—Oh, It was around five o'clock, jj couldn't say Just what time it was. TTarnffl took the witness.

Q.—Did you know Mr. Gossom at the Jthne? A—No, sir. $—Who was it, do you remember, ho said it was Gossom?

A.—No, I don't remember. There as' a crowd down there at the time. didn't pay any attention to It. q._What was the remark? A.—The remark was, "Who is them ellers up there in the polls?" and ome fellers said it was Jim Gossom, pjandidate for county commissioner, s'f q.:—That was before the polls closed, 1

Was it? I' A^—Tes, sir. 4^Ti—Tou didn't see him?

A—I saw him, but I wasn't very lose to him. Guess I was a hundred aet away from him.

Q.—Tou couldn't identify him then? jj A.—No, I couldn't. st Wynn Goldman Called. I' Wynn Goldman, of Harrison .town1 Hp, district 1, residing on the Lafayette "road, was the next witness. Batt |iue£tloning:

How long have you lived there, Goldman*?. !—Fifteen years this coming

^fWhat do you do? /Truck garden. -Were you ever acquainted with isom? -Not until registration day. I & -seen him but I never knew him. Q.—Where did you see him on regtratlon day? iij.

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A-—He came to me about seven o'clock in the evening. He tfame to me and said "Are you Mr. Goldman?" I said "Yes" and he said "I am Mr. Gossom, candidate for county commissioner" and 1 reached out my hand and shook hands with him.

Q.—Any further conversation? A—He asked me to support him and I said "nothin' doin.'"

Q.—What political Job did you hold at that time? A.—I never held any.

Q.—Were you at that time republican committeeman? A.—Yes, sir.

Q.—That is generally referred to as a political position. How long have you been republican committeeman'in that precinct?

A.—Bight years. Q.—Any further conversation? A.—The conversation ceased right then.

Q.—IMd you see him (Gossom) election morning? .* /•.. A.—I did.

Q.—When? A.—Seven o'clock in the morning at the polls. Twenty-fourth and Fifth avenue.

Q.—What conversation, if any, did you'have at that time? A.—I didn't have any conversation with him. He said you, Goldmari, I'll make you lose your Job today," and I said" "Much obliged to you you're Just the kind of a man I thought you was."

Q.—What Job did you hold at that time? A.—Janitor at the Rankin school.

Q.-—What were you doing at the polls on that day? A.—Trying to see the people get a Bquare deal in the election. —Did you see 'Mr. Gossom around the polls any more that day?

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A.—Yes. Q.—What was he doing? A.—He stood by Mr. White, poll book holder,, and when he'd come to a name with a red mark before it,'he'd say you, he's a legal, voter and told him (White) to let him vote or they'd have a fight around there."

Q'.—Were the illegal voters designated some way in the poll book? A:—Yes, they were marked with a red mark.

Q:-r~Did they, vote any of those marked with tfie red cross ... A.—They, all:voted.

Q.—Of. what nationality were they, if any specially? A.—Foreigners.

Q.—What is sometimes spoken of as the "Hunky vote?" A—Tfiey call them "Hunkies" and "rounders" or "round heads."

Q.—What else, if anything, did you see him doing with illegal voters? A.—I sawi him come up to a feller by the name of Frank and talked to him a little while and give him forty cents. I said 'He short changed you didn't he,' and he said 'As soon as he gets some money, he'll give me the other sixty cents.'

Q.—What, if anything, did you see him doing with other voters who were on the way to the polls or on the way to' "tfi^'feQiotlr?!

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door, these round heads, and shove 'em in and tell 'em how to vote and say "When you come out, I'll see you." (Witness left his chair to demonstrate how the mayor took the witnesses to the door and shoved them in.)

Q.:—Did you see him talking to them when they came out? A—I sa,w him talking to them and they went in saloons.

Q.—Went in a saloon on election day? Were the saloons, open? A.—Yes, sir, both of 'em. I. think them fellers made more money on thpt day than they have made since. ,'* Hamlll took the witness.

Q.—Are you still janitor a't that school? A.—No, sir he made his word good and he got me fired.

Q.—Did you testify over in Indianapolis in the federal trial? A.—Yes, sir.

Q.—In the federal trial or before the federal grand jury? A.—Before the federal grand Jury.

Q.—You difln't testify at the trial? A—No, sir. They subpoenaed me for the trial. Mr. Rankin tiame to my house on the 18th day of April and said, "We'll let you know within 24 hours and if we don't notify^ you in that time, the trial is so neiar over, I don't know whether I'll get a chance to use you how or not." They didn't notify me and so I:didnt go.

John Fitzpa|riok Called.

John Fttzpatrlck, assistant controller, was the next witness. Batt questioning.

Q.—How long have,you been assistant controller,? A.—Since the fifth day of 'May, this year.

Q.—Are you one of the custodians of the books in the controller's office? £K\ a:—Yes, sir.-'

Q.—And those books 'contain a rec-ord-of the disbursements, expenses of the. city?

A—Yes, sir. Q.—i wish you would turn to the disbursements record -for the month of January, 1915, and show what the records show Mr. Roberts received as salary as mayor in January, 1915.

A.—(Witness turned to one record.) This isn't the warrant register. This has the total disbursements.

Hamlll: You want to prove that Roberts drew a salary of $4,(TOO. We'll admit that—drew that salary up to the time Mr. Qpssom became mayor.

Batt: Will you admit that Mr. Gossom was city controller at the time these payments were made at this rate?

Hamill: He was controller from Feb. 20, 1915. Batt: It is admitted then he became acting mayor from April 19 and during the time he was controller, Mr. Roberts was drawing a salry on the basis of $4,000 a year and It is further admitted that there was an ordinance passed on December 3, 1913, placing Mr. Roberts' salary at that and that Mr. Roberts was elected to the office of mayor in the city of Terre Haute on November 3, 1913?

Hamill: Yes, we'll admit that. Charles Reide Called. C. IT. Reide, councilman of the Fourth ward, was next called. Batt questioned:

Q.—How long have you been aty councilman? A.—Since the 5th day of January, I914—Mr. Reide, do you recall a statement published in the daily pre«s on or about Sept. 18, 1915, in which, Mr. Gossom accused you or Mr: Ohmi or Mr. Monninger of accepting bribes of $100 from former Mayor Roberts?

A—I do.' Q^—Did that statement appear regularly in the rress of the city for some time?

A.—It appeared regulafly in some form or other, foj* about two weeks. q.—Was the statement you saw purporting to be an interview from Mr. Gossom

A.—Yes, sir. Q.

Was there* ever a denial in the public press on the part of Mr. Gossom?

A.—No, sir. Q.—RII -ask you to tell the council whether the statement in the paper in effect that you or one of the other two men named, was true or untrue as regards you? V'

A.—It was untrue as regards me. George Ohm Called, George Ohm, councilman-at-large, was next called. Batt questioned:

Q.—How long have you been councilman -at-large. A.—Since the 25th of March, this year.

Q.—Do you recall seeing a statement

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A.—r Bo. "X. q,—.Was there aver any contradiction of the statement in the public press?

A.—No,. Isir. Q.—I'll/'ask you if the statement as regards ybu was true or untrue?

A—Untrue. Gerhardt A. Monninger, city councilman of the Fifth ward, was next called. Batt questioning: q,—How long have you been city councilman!

A.—Since Jan. 5, 1914. Q.—Mr. Monninger, did you see a statement in one of the papers of the city on or about 'Sept. 12, 1915, purporting to be an interview from Mr. Gossom, in which he accused you, Mr. Reide or Mr. Ohm of accepting a bribe of $100 from former Mayor Roberts?

A.—Yes, sir. Q. .RN ASK you to tell the council whether the statement as regards you was true or untrue?

A—Untrue.

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