Daily Tribune, Terre Haute, Vigo County, 26 July 1914 — Page 14
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NO JOHNSON-CARPENTIER BATTLE FOR SOME TIME
Carpentier Is a man of parts and that one relating to horse sense is not :he least developed. He can reason .out tho finish of a 20-year-old etripling weighing 170 pounds pitted against a 210-pound veteran, and a world's title holder to boot.
Carpentier is a fast, clever man, apparently but stories of the fight show only one place in which he achieved results: That was "when he knocked down Gunboat. He'd have scant chance -to bore Jack Johnson and hurt that human behemoth. Only Father Time can ever bring Johnson and Carpentier together, with the Frenchman having a remote chance of winning.
Twenty-Year-OId Stripling Weighing 170 Pounds Wouid be Soft for Champion
However clamorous Frenchmen may be to have the last remaining obstacle between Georges Carpentier, their Idol, and the world's heavyweight championship swept away, there will be no .meeting betwoen Carpentier and Jack Johnson for some time to come.
Carpentier's victory over Ounboat Smith was of the unconvincing sort. Different from the case of Willie Ritchie, who won his title cn a foul, the victor did not wear down his opponent gradually through a considerable number of rounds.
Was the Frenchman Out
In fact, it has yet to bo shown that Carpentier was not suffering from the effects of a serious blow dealt the French champion immediately before the foul. Some stories of the light hint that this happened but most of them state that Carpentier slipped to the floor and while there, was struck lightly by Smith. If so, why did Carpentier have to bo helped to his corner and why did it take minutes of massaging to bring him around?
The Same Thing, Only Different. In the various reports of the Gunboat Smith-Carpentler affair, a remarkable
Good One On Hans Wagner
Down in Hot Springs th® natives still tell, with bated breath, of the terrific drive mede by Honus Wagner, of the Pirates, when he mixed up in a golfing game there.
Honus, so the story goes, had been coaxed out on the links, and was jhown the intricacies of the game. We went the rounds once or twice, but because he was handicapped by the advice of the expert golfers, he never was able to get a full swing at the ball. After the game was over, Wagner remarked that he thought ho could get more distance with a drive if allowed to follow his own Ideas. "That's a mistake," said one of the golfers. 'In baseball the harder you hit a ball the farther it goes. But it's different in golf. It Isn't strength that counts in the golfing game. "Mebbe not, mebbe not," remarked ^""^Honus. "But I kind o' think I could shoot that little ball pretty far If I got a good swipe at it."
It finally was decided to let Honus try at hitting the ball after his own Ideas. He teed up his ball with considerable sand underneath, stepped back a
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or two, grasped the club firmly in his huge paws and then made a mighty swing. The wood crashed full and fair against the ball, and away It shot like a rifle bullet. It cleared not only the valley, but the town on the other side of it," and when last seen the ball still was sailing upward in the general direction of the sun. "I kind o' thought I could do It," was Honus' only remark.
Hoppe and Inman to Start Playing on September 28
NEW YORK, July 25.—Melbourne Inman, the English billiard champion, and Willie Hoppe, the American cham-
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arranged the final details for their nternational championship matches In a conference yesterday. Hoppe made a concession to the Englishman in agreeing to use 2%-inch balls in the English game Instead of the 2 4-Inch balls originally agreed upon. The size finally agreed upon is but 1.82 of an Inch larger than the maximum provided in the English rules.
The first two dates have already been fixed and the dates for the third match •will not be announced for some time. This third match will be divided between Toronto, Montreal and Winnipeg, Canada.
The first match, which starts in this ilty on September 28, will be played 'alternately in English and American billiards. ..
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difference In the stories told will be noted. It seems incredible that different eyes could look on the same happening, and note so many different, even contradictory, things. Here are a few examples:
One report declares that Carneniter was knocked down and practically out by a blow delivered Just before the foul.
Another states that Carpentier slipped to the floor from the force of his own exertions after missing a punch.
One writer declares Carpentier was badly dazed by the blow landed while he was on the floor.
Another states that it la doubtful if the foul blow did more than graze Carpentier.
Some writers declare the blow was unavoidable and was absolutely unintentional.
At least ono other critic writes that the blow was a deliberate foul. All of which makes it certain that Gunboat Smith and Georges Carpentier will be hooked up in another Interesting and very profitable match, shortly.
Fine for the Lawyer*.
The "great victory" won by the Federal league in having the injunction against Pitcher Johnson, of the Kawfeds, dissolved, seems to promise large results—for the lawyers. It is hard to see how anybody else is going to profit Eoon, with an appeal in the Johnson case yet to come and a stubborn fight to be made in each other individual case of a player Jumping to the Feds.
It's fat pickings for the legal profession, when both ends are being played by the middle but it isn't going to hurry the untangling of the baseball row, very soon. Rather, it's a battle of sinews of war and the biggest bank book will outlast the opposition, court
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Welsh Won Title But Lost Money
While Freddie Welsh, the l&ngllsh champion, won the world's lightweight chrmplonship title from Willie Ritchie he did not receive a dollar for his victory. Instead he was out of pocket abcut ?600 spent for training expenses.
Welsh lost money on the fight because he agreed to split even with Fight Promoter Charlie Cochran on the money left after Willie Ritchie, the American champion, was paid his $26,000, of which $16,000 was for a guarantee and the rest for hla rights in the moving pictures.
The gross receipts amounted to $21,000, which was far below the sum both Welsh and Promoter Cochran figured would be taken in at the box office. They had expected that the receipts would surely reach $35,000.
Promoter Cochran probably lost over $10,000 on the contest, but as he made $16,000 on the shows he held at the same arena June 29, when Bombardier Wells, the English heavyweight champion, met Colin Bell, of Australia, and Harry Stone, the American lightweight, boxed Johnny Summers, the English welterweight, he is still several thousand dollars to the good.
The gross receipts of the twentyround fight between Jack Johnson, the world's heavyweight champion, and Frank Moran, of Pittsburgh, which was fought in Paris, June 27, were $3,i,200. This fight proved a money maker for nil concerned, for after ten per cent of the receipts was taken out for the uoor of France, which figured up $3,C20, Johnson received fifty per cent of the remaining $82,580, which made his end $16,290, while Moran and his manager, Dan McKetrick, and Theodore Viene, the promoter or the battle, divided the remaining $16,290.
Pitcher Club— G. W. L. Fittery, Evansville 26 16 6 Fromholtz, Evansville ..26 15 6 Fahrer. Dayton 18 12 6 Noel, Dayton 19 12 6 Stremmel, Dayton 20 12 6 Coinpton, Dayton 21 12 Wacntel, Dayton 20 11 6 Cramer, Fort Wayne ..25 14 8
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NATTYAND PLANK BEST AT WHITEWASHING ART
Probable World's Series Rivals Lead Respective Leagues in Blanking Enemy.
Should Christy Mathewson, of the Giants, and Eddie Plank, of the Athletics, face each other in another world series contest next fall, the fans of New York and Philadelphia being pretty positive that the tribes of McOraw and Mack again are going to win the pennant in their respective organizations, the spectators fortunate enough to witness this encounter would be seeing a battle between the greatest whitewash spillers in tho National and American leagues. Mathewson has for several years been the kalsomine king of the senior league, but it was not until May 28 of this year that Plank'js friends had a right
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announce that the veteran left hander had to his credit more shut outs than any other flinger in the Junior organization.
When the season started Ed Walsh, of the White Sox, possessed the honor now owned by Plank, of most frequently keeping his adversaries away from the scoring station. The westerner had used the brush fifty-six times, the eastener fifty-five. Jimmy Callahan did not give Walsh a chance to start a game until July 5, and by that time Plank had twirled three shut outs and since then another, Walsh, in his second trip out, came through with a "Chicago" victory over the Yankees, but he will have to pitch another brace of fchut outs before he can catch up with Gettysburg's best known graduate In tho important matter of spilling whitewash. Plank has denied his opponents runs in fifty-nine controversies Walsh In fifty-seven.
Walter Johnson, on July 3 of this year, got Into the Plank-Walsh class and by the half-century post in whitewashing. At the end of the campaign of 1913, the Chalmers car winner had to his credit forty-five kalsomlnings. By May 29 the Idaho phenom had fed his opponents on hen fruit four more times, but he had to wait quite a while until he could produce that fiftieth whitewashing, doing so July 3 against Boston.
Have No Real Rival*.
Plank, Walsh and Johnson are not in much danger of having any more associates In their tight little whitewash society for many years to come. Only three other American league pitchers—"Chief" Bender and Jack Coombs, of Philadelphia, and Joe Wood, of Boston—have succeeded In keeping their opponents away from the plate in twenty-five or more games. Bender has nhut out his rivals thirty-three times. Coombs twenty-eight times, and Wood twenty-five times.
These statistics show the number of times Plank, Walsh, Johnson, Bender, Coombs and Wood have blanked each of their rivals:
Flank—69 shut outs. Against St. Louis, 13 Detroit. 11 Boston, S Chicago, 8 Washington, 7 New York, 6 Cleveland, 5, ana Milwaukee, 1.
Walsh—57 chut outs. Against Boston, 15 Washington, 9, Philadelphia, 8 Detroit, 7 St. Louis, 7 Cleveland, 6, and New York, 5.
Johnson—52 shut outs. Against New York, 12 Boston, 9 Philadelphia, 7 Cleveland, 7 St. Louis, 6 Detroit, 6, and Chicago, 6.
Bender—33 shut outs. Against St. Louis, 9 New York, 8 Chicago, 6 Cleveland, 4 Detroit, 3 Washington, 3, and Boeton, 1.
Coombs 28 shut outs. Against Washington, 6 St. Louis, 6 Cleveland, 4 New York, 4 Boston, 8 Chicago, 3, and Detroit, 2.
Wood—25 shut outs. Against New York, 8 St. Louis, 5 Chicago, 4 Washington, 5 Cleveland, 2 Philadelphia, 2, and Detroit, 1.
Mnrkmen Shake Off Hoodoo. Connie Mack believes the weather man contrived to keep him from hoisting his' 1913 pennant this year. Rain spoiled several programs prepared for the event, but it is at last in place and the Mackmen believe the hoodoo has left them.
Central League Pitching Records
The Central league has seventeen flingers who have won at least half of their games. Of tho number, two are Terre-irs, Madden and Cantwell. The former has won eight of thirteen games, while the big right-hander has captured twelve games and lost nine.
Their respective percentages are .615 and .671. Fittery and Fromholtz, both of Evansville, are tied for top honors, each having captured fifteen games and lost six. Fahrer, Noel, Stremmel, Compton and Wachtel, of Dayton, follow as named. The pitching records: T. R. H. SO. BB. HB. W. 53 59 60 56 60 49 71 66 47 48 42 82 40 61 37 9 64
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Shelburn Business Men Who Cavort on Diamond
STANDING LEFT TO RIGHT—Witt. GHEY, R. F. JOE DAVEY, P. JOHTV BREWER, P. TOM NASH, C.» ROV .11AJVISTER, MASCOT FRED JICWTON, S. S. MEYER, UMPIRE CORNET, 1ST. SITTING LEKTT TO RIGHT—NASll, C. I-'.j CRAMMER, 3B. M. NASH, 2B. FURGANSON, CAFT.j HILL, L. F.
SHELBURN, Ind., July 25.—Showing the ball club composed of west side business men who recently defeated the east side business men in a hot
Players Club— Knoll, Evansville Clemens, Dayton
Sp«encer, Dayton Baker, Evansville
Nelson Lauds Ketchel and Ad Wolgast
Bat Nelson no longer refers to Ad Wolgast as the "cheese champion." That brand of detraction was called off after they shook hands and made up last winter after their bout of ten rounds in Milwaukee Bat was badly outpointed but Wolgast had a rib broken by* the man from whom he won the cnamplonship in one of the greatest contests in tne history of the ring. The beating Nelson took that night without once breaking ground or being unwilling to exchange blows brought him the admiration courage always demands.
After the mill that night Wolgast took Nelson by the hand and said he was the gamest man in the world. Nelson's reply was: "Well, Ad, old boy, I was there at the finish but it was a hard and long road to travel. You are there, old kid, and I want to say that all that cheese champion stuff is off now and I admit that you were a real champion or you could never have beaten yours truly."
The Durable Dane says he believes that he still has sufficient fight left In him to beat Willie Ritchie or any of the "looking glass fighters." which Is what he terms the fancy boxers of Freddie Welsh's style.
He named Joe Gans, Ad Wolgast and Kid Lavlgne as lightweights of the
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Eight Central Batsmen Hit .300
But eight Central league batsmen are hitting .300 or better, Terre-irs excluded. Knoll, of the Evas, Is high with .340. with Clemens, of Dayton,
second, and Grefe, of Evansville, third. Four of the eight .300 hitters are members of the Evansville gang.
The figures of those in the select set are as follows:
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past whom he regards as so far superior to the best In the weight division today as to be beyond comparison.
Nelson says he considered Stanley Ketchel the greatest out and out fighter of his weight and Inches that the game has ever known and that In his opinion Stanley would be good enough to 'beat any heavyweight in the business today if he were living, barring enly Jack Johnson. He even goes so far as to say that he believes Ketchel would have given Johnson the fight of his life had the Grand Rapids fighter been as good the night he fought Johnson as he was when he beat Joe Thomas, Jack (Twin) Sullivan and Billy Paplce.
Plank Still Invincible.
There seems to be no end to Eddie Plank's pitching days. Though the veteran has reached the forty mark he has won ten games this season and lost but two. In fact, his work to date is better than It has been at any time during his career with the Athletics. Plank is a foxy pitcher. He knows every batsman's weakness, and he has enough stuff and control to baffle them. He Is not being used often this season, getting anywhere from five to six days' rest between games. He cannot stand tho strain of being worked out of turn, and, realizing this Mack Is handling him with care, so that he will have at least one great pitcher during the flag race.
Covalenkle Shown Strain. Covaleskie, the winning pitcher of the Detroit Tigers all spring, has not been going as well of late and his arm is beginning to show the strain of too much work.
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