Indiana State Sentinel, Volume 24, Number 33, Indianapolis, Marion County, 8 April 1875 — Page 2

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THE INDIANA STATE SENTINEL THURSDAY. APRIL 8 1875

: bcis last cH-AisraE GENERAL AND SPECIFIC DENIAL TEARS AND THEATRICALS GENERALLY. Startling and Stagy Situations. A VIGOROUS DEFENSE. THE CRISIS IN THE GREAT BROOKLYN SCANDAL BEECHEB ON THE STAND HI3 TESTIMONY IS IT EQUAL TO THE GREAT EMER GENCY KEAD AND DETERMINE. It is generally adniittod that the trial cow dragging its slow length along through the Brooklyn court and scaudallz ins the wcrld, is the greatest of modern time?, if not cf the history of the world This being the case, the newspapers respond to the public demand for tee particulars, nc onlv in tho publication of the testimony taken and the arguments of the lawyers, but also In presenting pictures of the parlici pant), lhe Sentinel his done its full share of thi. ar.d now submits the following from the special telegram to the Cicc'rnati Com mercial: Of the hrst day's proceedings', when Beecher took the stand in hl3 own de fense, the special pays: At last Brecher, af ter three months ,f testimony againit hin and far him, after list&nimz t5 the opening invective of Morris, in Januarv, and the defensive open Ing Dy Tracy In February, and the numberless argument that have intervened; alter seeking some forty or uity witnesses, ot both sexe3 and two colors, and 6very variety of personal character, take too stand; alter having been tormented In numberless ways, ivmcner nim?eii, me laruous defendant m this extraordinary suit for adultery .took the witness stand this morning to give evidence in dh own oehai: such evidence as ha only can give evidence by which he will either stand or fall, in this court, and In the judg ment oi manKind, ana BEFORE THE TRIBUNAL OF HDsTOltY. The crime with which he is charged is of the most infamous kind, and his defense must be complete. The alleged circumstances of it were peculiarly wicked, and the basis npon which these circumstances are Bet op wüst, us uutriy aesiroyci. uiner witnesses have tetiti,?d to Tilton'd nnveracity, immorality, marital cruelty and pecuniary machinations; but Brecher muatiuroish a demonstration of his own innocence iu the matter concerning which he is accused. Nuch is the work set lor him, which ho has to-day undertaken. Before sketching the proceedings I will stop at the threshold long enough to Bay thai the part of Beecher's evidence given to day was not sensational or overwhelming, being merely preliminary to promised developments. But. neveitbeiess, just before closing court tho key note of the defense wm ftruck iu the introduction of Beecher's Ittter cf December, 1.870, advising Mrs. Tilton's separation from her husband, the Mter through which bis counsel expect to begin the building up of an explanation of those remorseful documents, written or dictated by Beecher, which are now admitted by the prosecution to tie tho principal evid9nc3 against him. The excitement, in Brooklyn over Beecher's appearanco is very great.'and the main industry heie seems to be the discussion of the trial. The crowd around the court house was but a few hundreds stronger, though in the course of the day thousands make briet visits to its vicinity to learn the latst items of news which float out in one way or another. It was quite evident, long before tho hour of opening ccurt, that this was to bo THE GREAT DAY OP THE TRIAL. At ten o'clock all the seats were occupied by people a3 illustrious as ourselves. The newspaper tables were lined with the leading writers of the different journals, and all around we saw the familiar facos of men foremost in various lines. Just at 11 Beecher, accompanied by his wife, his danghter, and a email group of friends, entered court, closely followed by Tilton and his counsel. As he walked forward to his usual place in court, smiling and saluting or chatting with people, he looked in the highest state of health, strength and placidity, but his corpse-looking wife tottered as though it required all her powers to do so. Beecher, who was the cynosure or all eyes, occupied for some five minutes hU ordinary scat in the midst of about twenty members of bis family brothers and sisters, sons and (laughters, besides relatives by marria&e. His lawyers gathered around him, and were talking with him amid the noisy gabble of the place when the clerk hammered for silence, vociferated the names of jurors and Evarts rose to call Bescher. As Boon as he had le t the chair, Mr. Evarts turned to the plaintill: Mr. Brecher, will; you take the stand." Mr. Beecher rose from his place beside his wife and family and began to make his way round the usual passagetaken bv the witnesses, but Tilton's counsel rose and allowed him to advance directly to the stand which was in front of him. The color leithis face, which turned to pillor as he advanced with downcast eyes, wearing an overcoat above his black nu'st. and carrying bis slouch hat in hi3 hand. He mounted the steps, and as the clerk began to read the usual oath, while an oflieor held out the Bible, Beecher raised his right hand as in affirmation. Mr. Beach immediately exclaimed, "One moment; I object to this form of oath unless Mr. Beecher shall declare that he has conscientious ECRUPLE3 AQAIN9T SWEARING upon the Scriptures." "I have," ieplled Beecher, in his resonant and melitlaous tone. I have conscientious scruples against swearing on the Bible." He was then permitted-to take the oath with uplilted hand, in the presence of the ever-living God. The examination was conducted by Evaits, snd we saw the most eloquent American preacher, seated on the witness chair, giving evidence to the most brilliant American lawyer, who stands up a lew leet away from him. Tilton and Moulton sat near Ceecher's feet, gazing up intently into his face. Tho first questions related to his birth, parentage, and such matters, and were answered as concisely as possible. When Batcher's voice was first heard, as he began to testify from the witness chair, the members of the Beecher family were overcome with emotion. Ills old wife's faco alone was firm, and her featured fixed, but his daughters' eyea were tilled with tears, and so his two bearded were those of his Catherine; and so were archal brother, Edward: were tnose of sour; and so ancient sister, those of his patriand so were those

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of his son-in-law and his daugLtsr-in-law; and so were those of many of his Plymouth Church friends, as they gazed upon Henry Ward Beecher in that place. There was really an agonized expression in the faces ot some of them at tho spxtacle tbey then beheld. Beecher's thorough preparation for the witness stand became apparent at the very opening of his testimony, which was delivered cooly, clearly and precisely. Both he and Evaits displayed the utmost caution In their langueg. Evans questioned slowly and thoughtfully, while Beecher answered with a degree of deliberation that I have Dever before known him to display. TIIE SECOND BED LETTER DAY in the great trial tho special sketches as appended. In triomphe is tho exultant shout of the Beecher paity to-day. The other party, I apprehend, is in an alarming state ot dciaeralatioa, but if Lkecber La?

really achieved euch a sweeping and conclusive triumph as hia friends claim, it has been accompanied by such harrowing spectacles, bathed in such recurrent floods ot tears, and interspersed with euch wonderful displays of vocal tremolo, that we all feel quite med up. Such scenes as those of t-day may often take place in tho nether shades, where Ithadamanthus and Triptolemus preside at the judgment tribunal, but they are not often witnessed in the courts of this world. It was Beecher's great day of opportunity, and he called all his wonderful powers, forces and faculties into play for the occasion, lie told the strange talo ol the

limes, in which he is the foremost figure, as only tie couiu ten it. 111s language was picturesque, bis imagination vivid, and his manner and voice adapted themselves to every exlgetcy in a way that can be but taose wuo nave Jong been familiar with Lis genius in these directions. In describing pathetic scenes, or in referring to assaults upon bis honor, his emctions frequently overcame him so that he spoke tremulously, while his face photographed his mental anguish, and the tears bursting Irom hia eyes rolled down bis checks. It was really a painful spectacle tsee the famous old gray-haired man orcak down like a child, and give way to uccon troilable tears, as he sat in that witness chair rarratiu his wretched experiences with Tilton. Those of as who have often seen him shed tears when preaching, were hardly less shocked than those to whom such scenes were a novelty. Perhaps THE MOST IMPRESSIVE SCENE of the morning was that with which the first bossion closed, when Beecher gave narrative sketch of the bedroom interview with Mrs. Tilton, to procure her letter of re traction. V e had been led 1 3 it by a series of 6tages eachol which surpassed the ether in intensity, and in their anion upon the mind. It was a trial of Btecher's peculiar powers, ins aesenpuon oi .airs. Tilton's position, of his words to her, ot hers to him, ana or now snecame to write tue retraction, was a feat not the printed words can tfolasce to. Behind and intershot all throusrh me worus was me living manner, pathetic. solemn and dignified to tho last degree. The court-room was dreadful In the literal sense of that word. It was as awiul a place as any man has been in in modern times. Jurv. judge, counsel and audience were under the spell of the story teller, and 3 t Beecher's manner seemed as natural and devoid of ef fort as can be imagined. Beecher himself surrendered to his emotions. His daughter. who bears such a close resemblance to him. wept in sympathy. His sons, brother and sisters were all touched, aud only his viio remained unmoved. Tears sprung: to the eyes ot hair the people la court, including several or the )urors. niton's face ws sorrowful, Moultoa half surrendered, and I even beheld a ivewspaper porter en gaged in uncontrollable weeping. This remrka ble reporter is a fat, red JiC6d man, with muttcu chop wbikers, and raouatache, who doesst nograpbic work for a Brooklyn payer. lue testimony ot co-day moved witn lrre$uarity, shilling Irom one thlnj.to anothejin ways that were doabtless understood by Mr. Evarts,. but if I wew to reduce- it to orderly divisions, It might- be brought under foar different Leads. Fisstly, an explanation oi tho minr incidents-of Inculpation that bae been rrought forward. Secondly. Beecher" solemn aud direct denial, once and again, of ever having had aay criminal or improper, relations with Mrv Tilton. Thirdly, fciaexplicit and emphatic denial ot the truth of almost every allegation sworn tu by Fran! Moulton; and, fourthly, his explanation ci the circumstances under which, his letter cf apology or contrition was produced, and of meaning. Other matters wore covered. but thbe are the leadiug features. Now,. then, as to the minor incidents. Bescher began by telling of the first visit he had Iroia Bessie Turner: then admitted HE HAD PRESENTED FLOWERS to Mrs. Tilton, and many other pcopje;. denied that she ever sat in his. lap ; denied all knowledge of the suspicious Incident mentioned by her brother; told of his tree and friendly ways In Tilton's house, as in his own; of Mrs." Tilton's couversation. in which she was always glorifying Theodore: then described Mrs. Tilton'a character and told of their mutual affection and respect. utterly pure and holy. He next went over the ground coursed by the alarming dates of. the 10 and 17th of October, 18G3, when his adulterous intercourse Is said to have begun. He told ol tue Tiltonliowea troubles, and recounted la his re markable way the stories of Tilton's alleged fornication. He sketched the original interView, ol the 20th oi December, witb Moulton; the cantankerous interview of the same night with Tilton, and the subsequent bedroom interview with Mrs. niton ou the same nijht, to which I have already re ferred, lie tuen described ino pisroi interview with Moulton, in which his marvel- .. . . 4 III . ! Jl ous skill at story-ieuing was again aisplaved. My second division ot subjects in cludes his categorical denisl of guilt in re ply to a carefully constructed series of ques tions addressed to him at 12 o'clock by Mr. Evarts. The scene during the delivery and answer of these questions was by far the most solemn cf all the proceedings to a reasoning mind. Before delivering them, Evarts paused, straightened himsel, and looked directly at Beecher, in a way which indicated that something important was coming. In loud, clear tones, Mr. Evaits asked the first question which related to undue familiarities. Beecher sat up straight, faced his questioner, his accused and the court, and, with the profouudest emphasis, said, Never." To the second question, which related to solicitation, be aLSwered still more emphatically, "Never." To the third question, have you received improper favors, he exclaimed, energetically, "It would be Impossible for her, never; no, never." Loud "applause. The last of the four questions was, "Did you ever have carnal Intercourse, or sexual intercourse with Mrs. Tilton?" Beecher raised his voice, and in tremulous tones, responded, "No sir, never," while THE TEARS BURST INTO HIS EYES, Mr. Evarts sat down at thl3 climax, and for over five minutes there was a bushed and solomu pause in tho court. The sensation was intense over this dramatio surprise. Tears gleamed In th9 eyes ot Tiiton, whose gaze was riveted on the powerlul face of Beecher. Moultor's face wa3 redder tbau his hair, but his small eyes were closed, while all his facial muscles twitched. Beecher's wife looked impassive as ever, but hia sous aud daughter, sisters and brother, gleamed with delight. When Evarts resumed be took up another branch of the Investigation. My third division of subjects relates to Beecher's contradictions of Moulton. He denied point blank every important allegation in Moul ton's testimony. Questions were put to him one alter the other, and his replies were indescribablv energetic, "I did not;" No, sir ;" " Not i word ;" " Never." While he often emphasized the denial by gestures, or shaking his bead. It was put beyond doubt that either Beecher is the monumental perjurer of the Christian era, or Moulton is the most accursed liar that ever trod the " Burning Marl of Hell." Beecher denied peremptorily, positively and unequivocally almost every matter of fact, every word, and every imputation to which Moulton swore in the witness chair. When at last Beecher made one sweeping general denial of all and every statement of Moulton in regard to any conver sion relating to adultery .there was a burst of applause, soon quelled by the officers, My fourth division of subjects relate to ücecher'a explanation of the letter of con

trition, lie sketched the circumstances under which that celebrated ltter was written. It tcok the form of a narrative and then of a discourse, and when Beecher described bis state of mind his voics once more shivered, and be broke sgain into tears, but keit ou speaking, till aftor a tew moments bis voieo rolled out in superb barmonies. Once again he wept, and held bis bead with bis bands. Again and again bis tremulous voice, wonder.'ul lace and streaming eyes indicated his overpowering emotion. The score of women in court were sgi!a?ed with weeping, lhe jarv, with few exceptions, were affected, and several of them used their handkerchief! and fingers in their eyes. Even the judge wore a subdued expression through the day. There was a general rustle of relief all over the court room when Beecher ended his lor? explanation of the letter. Mr. Evarts the a CLOSED THE DAY WITH A CLIMAX

by asking Beecher a question which again brought from him another specific, direct and emphatic denial of the charge of adul tery. Mr. Beecher stepped down from the chair, walked over to his wife and family, and the court adjourned under cireum&tan ces of solemnity which have never before marked any part of the great trial. Mr, lu vans displayed a high crder of talent and legal skill in tho framing of his questions so es to lring out the testimony effectively so as to keep within the rules of evidence, so as to deal delicately with scenes of impro priety, so as to Show tho utmost resrect to the witness, and so as to give Beecher full plsy In bls.lescnptlve sketches, i iiton s counsel, including Beach, Fuliertoa rryor ana Aiorris, sas nearly ail üay as though under a spell. Beach hardly ever orjeced to anything, and l o nerton did not . as usual uunug tne testimony or other wit nesses, make notes for the cross-examina tion. e have had bits of acilng before in this trial, but Beechc-r dwarfed everybody who bad occupied that witness chair into contemptuous insignificance. I bavo seen all the great actors of the last 30 year?, and have often seen Beecher himself in tb pulpit. dui l never Knew dramatic genius, or an earnest man to do more Derlect work than Beecher did to-day. At times hia deen bass intouations resounded over the court, tnen tr.e emphatic sounds of indignasion st ruck our ear, now his voice quivered with the pathos of Elizabeth, then it trembled and broke with erne tloc;aain. he mimicked the pompons theatricality of Tilton. and be reproducsd all the varied styles of tbe characters .who appeared Ja their different moods. The great Delaarie would have pro nounced Bsecfcer a master ta bid line. He tore, up a scrap ef psper and flung it on the noor to Ulustrats how Tilton had torn and dashed down the-so-called coivftasions of his wife. He fumbled In bis pecket to show bow Moulton onee fumbled far a key. He crossed his arms to -show HOW MRS. TXTON LAY I?PUED, am? so on. An old diplomatist, who Is fond of higb art, said to me; "I have got more for my money to-day than I ever'ct before In ray life." The saose observer-remarked, when' the day's procerJlDgs were ever;: 'The Beeher trial Is now ended." But I learned in a tew moments from Tilton ilxst he did not oindde witb ttrs view ot the case. Again- to-4lay Beecher beld somesraall pink iiu'ttr vpnf in uis ie.t oauu ail Q3y, at 119 sat in the wHness-Btand There was remrokabl 7 good order in court all dav, wiiioh was broken but once or twiae by an attempt at applause. I am aware that the printed reports-will not jusiiiy ny language abont Beecher's testimony. It must be tet'j to le appreciated. I forgot to- say In tho proper place that Evarts's greal legal and msral feat of the day in addressing a series of categorical questions to Beeches was almost literally copied from a similar feat of Charles O'Coror twenty years go In tho famous Fcriofst divorce case, when O'Cotor addressed a similar series cf questions to Mrs. Forrest. FIRST DAT. Mr. Beecher took the stand, and T?asexaudaed by Mr. Evarts. After giving a biography of the Beecher family In detail he cme down to the business In hand. t. Well, Mr. Beecher,. when were you married T A. The same year I was settled; la 1S37, 1 think it was, sir.. Q. How long a period before your marriage had yoa been acquainted with your aäianced. A. Half as long as the patriarch and his two; I bad been engaged to her seven years. Laughter. Q. And how old were you when you were married? A. I thick I was 23; I am not good at figures. And what was your wife's age at that timer A. What Is that? ij. vnai was yuurw vo..g.vo,1IUt,, . ' 1.1 - 1 . 1 A. I think she was zaiso a part ojtue vear she is 14 when I am 23, and tho rest of the year we are ot the same age. Laughter. (J. So that your engagement dates dates from the early age cf 13 "or thereabouts? A. I was engaged, I think, when I was between the age ot 16 and 17. Q. You were in college then? A. I was in college sir; I think I was a freshman. Q. How many children, Mr. Beecher, have you had of this marriage? A. I have lour. I have four with me and five waiting forme. Q. And now how many grand children have you? A. Eight. Q. During the period of your marriage has tncre baeu any intervals of absence or separation between yourself and your wife except thoe you have named except going to Europe?; A. Except when I bave been gone to Europe or out on lecturing tours. Q. And of late years has your wife had occasion to visit the South with reference to her hpalth? A. Yes, yes, sir; since. I thinks the winter ot 1870 or 11. Q. The winter of 7'-'71? A. '70 or '711 don't remember exactly vhero it began. Q. Had she gone South every wiuter udtil now? A. Until this thi winter, yes. Q. While you were at Indianapolis was there any occasion whenyour wife wert to Connecticut, in consequence of sickness? A. Not to Connecticut; she went back to her home. Q. In Massachusetts? A. In Sulton, Mass. Q. And with those exceptions there has been no interval? A. I don't recall any. q. la regard to the conduct oi domestic affairs, Beecher, what was the habit of your life with respect to your wile or yourself having charge oi thsm? A. From a very early period I remettid to ber almost entirely my secular affairs, so much so that uutil within two years sinca my son came to live with me, who was in business. I never even drew my own salary. Q. Your wife did? A. Tbe checks were made out to her and all treasurer's accounts were to Mrs. Beecher, debtor, and I knew neither what money came in or what money came out, so far as my salary was concerned. Q. Until within a recent period, was your wife's health and strength sufficient? A. She had, for her poor health. But it was the strength and amount of purpose that gave her, in effect THE STRENGTH OK TEN "WOMEN, and until an accident which befel her, namely, being thrown from a runaway team against tbe stone steps of abank in Brooklyn, she was in every respect always thought sound and efficient far beyond tbe measure of ordinary women. Q. What was your habit in regard to your correspondence being known to her or managed in respect or in degree by Mrs. Beecher during this period? A.Weil, in the earlier period of my life I had a very sensitive feeling in regard to sacredness of letters. 1 would never open my children's letters nor suffer anybody else to do it. I would never .open her's. neither did I wish her to open mine, but within the last 15 years correspondents have so multiplied, I grew cireless through oyer occupation, tbat they,

little by btlle, passed into her charge; and for the lat 15 years, if I was gone, or if there was any reason why perhaps -somebody might suffer, she always opened my letters, and, to a very considerable degree answered them. If there were any doubt which she had, she waitM uutil I came home. Q. Mr. Beecher, during your settlement here what has beeajouf habit in regard to personal visits, or intercourse with your parish it large, or with any narrow circles among your parishioners, or among other residents of Brooklyn? A. In my early years I attempted a great deal of visiUng. As outside demands wasted my time I made arrangements by which I could b9 seen at my bouse or at my church by whomsoever wished; still subsequent to that I found it impossible either to visit or to receive multitudinous calls, and for tbe last twenty years, witb the exception of weddings and funerals, I have done very little visiting. Nov. and then I JfAD A PAROXYSM OP VISITATION, but in general it may be said I am net a visiting preacher. Q. And bave there been aay circle of intlmacias between your

family and other families congregation, or of your ne'gbbcrs? A. Ycf, sir, I was against that, but always studied on that subject. I have alwavs of your Brooklyn cautioned my rights Mid that. because I was a minuter I was not any tho lwsa gentleman snd a citizen, and I would have my circle and my intim Juries; I didn't care who was jealous nor who made remarks. Q, And these intimacies were then ol whole families and with your whole family? A. almrst in every case. Q. And were these intimacies entirely or principally with fam lies of your own p'arish? A, I think with a single exception. Q. Had you intimacies with any family of your brother clergymec? A. Yes, sir; the exceptUn was Dr. ötorrs. Q. Otherwise these intimacies were in your own parish? A. Altogether. Q. These family Intimacies were confined to jour family? A, Yes. sir. Q. iTuriDg this time have you bad a large personal acquaint ance with men engaged In public affairs, or In tbe affairs of religion and church? A. You mean to the nation at large. Q. Yes. s4r; In the community at large? A. Yes. I have met very many; have- never formed any particular intimacies or ac quaintances with many. Q. Has year correspondence been extensive? A. 1 eboold say not if I should judge from ray impression, t?ut if you were to bring the letters it would b3 found I had been lecturing the last twenty-four yesr. Q. What ha been the average of public eva sions oa which you have spoken, being tho period not embraced by tbe occasion? At I don't understand your last remark. I; Düring a period, say runcing back to a tine 2C years go,. what has been the averse Dtmber of times of your public appearan? not embraced in the line cf your vocation? A. I ehoulo) say that from tbe year 1844 t Tithe year 1878,- I have delivered abouttweon Sunday and four fall grown addres?s daring the week, and oftentimes -two a day. (ii When did yon first come to Via antidinli1 with TTnn w ? TlwaTi 9 A In tbe year 1S47I that is tho year tba', I camo ... ' - to Brooklyn. u. And what relation naa ae toiueociety or lehurch to which you wsr then called? A. He -was one of the original members and A IBADINO MASi. Of the new church? A. Of the present Church.- Q. And I Ad you busloess relations,, nectlon, exceptand in what conas pastor of the church? ' A; In connection witb the Inde pendents and in one instance with the equipping of a regiment whiib Plymouth Church Eabhtantisliy raised atxhs outsat of tbe war- Q. Wea Bowen tha proprietor or part proprietor ot the Independent during the period of your connection with it?" A. Ily- was the oproprletor when I took editorial charge, ana I think he becani sole proprietor. Q.,And so continued until you lsft? A. Y6ssir, as I am iuformed.. Q. Were ycu intimate friends and associates, and If so, tor vrhal period of time? A. Tho tirt two weei I came to Brooklyn I was a sues; of his house; subsequently we wevked hancW to hand in establishing Plymouth Church. He, more thsa any man was useful :n the fiscal . affairs (4 the church. Q. During the period of time-that you were editor ol the palter bow cloae was yonr Intercourse? A. I saw him nearly every day, so it mav be said we ware very intimate. Q. And hia. family, also? A. Yes, sir. Q- And his family with your's? A. Kos so much. C& When was yuui your connection or any joint t . , h ijoWen dissolved and in what manner?.- A. Do you mean when my business relations with him ceased? Q. Yes. A. I should say In September. I gave notice, according to contract, that the end of tbe contract was in September, 18C6. Q. Prior to that time had an' attitude ot that piper toward yourself made any difference in vour disposition to Bowen's A. Yes. Q. What was tbat? A. Well, do you ask me wjiat led mo-anally to break off troin the pipei? J. Yea; I ask what aroto ttween tue paper and sourself that led to your dissolution with that paper. A. Burin the period ol reconstructive measures, l as they we?e called,,, aad after I had left th Independent, I pursusa a line wnicn causea them to criticise me with more or less decision v and in l&Gi when I wrote the Cleveland lettsr, as it is called, which was written in Aunusr, 2G6 the Independent criticised me in a manner so eevose, at tbe time when the whole public, pretty much with the exception of tr-e democratic party were down on methal I felt a paper that I had dealt position from its biitb, was now being used to destroy me, tbat I knew that aelf-iespect should lead me to curse ray connection with it, and gave notice ot its termination and CLOSED THE CONTRACT . according. Q. At that point what was the foi m and extent of your obligstleu I A. I was under contract to lurnish a sermon a weak. I don't remember precisely, but bave ah impression that 1 was also to furnish one article a week, eitner an editorial or a star article, as they were eallad. I am not positive about the last, but its my impression. Q. That was a deferred contract for pecuniary compensation? A. It was. Q. You dissolved it? A. I terminated it accordibg to the terms laid down in the contract. Q. Now, from that time onward, what were your personal relations with Bowen, from August to December 1870? A. Well, sir, they wer very much diminished; there was a considerable degre of coolness. Q. Bowen continued all this time a prominent person in the church? A. He was. a pew holder in my church, but he was not an active man in church affairs. Q. lie was a prominent pew holder? A. Ye. Q. Mr. .Beecher, when and how did you ürst form the ACQUAINTANCE Off TILTON r A. I recollect him, if I recollect aright, while he was an employe on the New York Observer. If I recall aright I became acquainted with him first on his office of reporter. He was a short-hand reporter. Q. And in what connection with vourself did that employment of his bring him into vour acauaintaacs? A. I don't remember whether he was reporting anything Irom Plymouth Church pulpit lor other papers, but my first recollection, is that Daniel Barlle, then a member of ray church and a publisher in New York, procured him to report sermons

for him. Q. Your sermons? A. My sermons; he having an intention to publish a volume. Q. Was the young man introduced to you in that connection? A. As I remerabar, I caa'c say about the time of the introduction; I have known him so long it seems aa if I've known him always, sii.ee bave beon in Brooklyn. Q. iL . was hi "e and Position In life at the time that you knew him? I can not say wbt his age was. He was extremely youthful and of an engaging manner and a very comely appearance, and one whoso address I know "won uiy sympathy from the first. Q Now, from that time, i"n what cause and ia what degree did ycucome to oe associated with him in intercourse or employment? A. I saw him a great deal. Lü1 m for a ear er two be" fore 1SG0, because he had transferred r .u "ellioc8 from the Observer t the Independent. Then I used to ee him affer that several times a week when I vas in town. Q. In connection with the Independent? A. In connection with the Independent. Q. And how were vour personal relations? A. Very cordial. I. Oa both tides? A. On both sides. Q. How much were you and he in the habit of conTerrirg together with regard to your common Interests, or discussing common purposes? A. He wps witty and amusing in conv. rsation. ard I aIk-at hter .-ih

him oa such matters before, "but I didn't go i'-t? what may to called very Close per-onal relations until I assumed t-e mansgetreL-t of the paper in 1331, andtbereaffsr. for two vrars or three, we were together nearly every da v. Q. And ws th:s Ictimscy of companionship, as well as of common ictjrests and employmect? A. It was not only common eaipioyment and companionship, but downright lovinz onmyrv.rt. Durice all thls'tirre how soon d:d you become aware of any desire or pure os3 cf hia lo-tucceed yon in the-Independent? A. erCCEED OR SrrERSZDE. Succeed J' A. I don't know. Batltave an- imprest n that It was his desire tlat he should sflpersode- rather th3n that ie should not succeed. Q. And you so expressed it? AYes. Q. And whea aid yon first 'Jegin to plan and prepare fbrtJx&t pesi tionforbim? A. It was In 1S63. si?.- O. A that thne was Se definitely and publicly known as associate editor? A. Yes,sir; it was ont'of the conditions- when Iagrsed to take thGperthahe was to he my associate. Q. Made 03 youf A. Yes, sir. Q. When an bow war the arrangement made by which you were to decline the place entirely in iris favor? A; When that proposition to tend me to Europe came up, 1 my cttrrch v.ns desirous tiat J should -g?, but it was necessary that' I should hav the consent cf Bowen, with whom I had a coutratt-at that time, and an arrangement was maOe between Bowen and myself by wnich I was to give up to him certain vested right with reference to that paper, and I was to he e the liberty of abeure on cowoition of crMrespondenee with it and then a'jeo sicee we were breaking up the old arrangement. L- mtcieu icia to Ey TrnlCD L SJgreea U Tilwould taK6 ""7 placs-on my return, and ham An t Un r t , vu buo 1 per iur a year,, my aosence feeing a Kina oi probationary period for ...... l T 11 11 X .ununiu, woHKt auow my D&n e to stand yaar as nom.fial ed2rr:. arrr whinVi -re was to- continue as editor under his own name, 'i. And you witljdrew, you continued to have such contracts as yoa- mentioned for literary services. A. Yes. Q4Batyoudid terminate your relations as editor? A. Yea. This, then, v.-a abontl863 and 1864. A. Yes, sir. I returned in' the autumn of JS83, aud I was only nominal editor in 1SG4, though I had the ri.3ht at any; time in 1S64 to put what I chose into the paper, editomliy. Q. Now, . prior to this time,. Mr. Bwcher, had there eTr been an occasion when Tilton and yourseJf had eome into some competition or collision in public de bate. A. Yes., sir, in 18G0. VWhat was that occasion V A. The occasion wasthe question in Plymouth Churcb, whether we would contribute funds to tbe America boar J of commission era for foreign missions. A d3bate I think of ; thrae days and which terminated I . think by a general meeting In the church.. I dont know of bat two nights in the lecture- room and a tüirdin the church, but that is not importEJif. Q. Was it an occasion of publicity and i Ia ä A a -sir-. . i Interest? A. Yes; I can cive vou a brief statement if you desire. 4j The general point ia the controversy was-wbat ? A. The general point in the- controversy was wbeher 1'ivraouth Church.. which had Ki-r-caiized its devotion-to tns anti-slavernj Miua cnnnU Mntr!Knt& n IK. : " l .uov, (.UUHIVUIV V7 li-IO AUlCliüdU Missionary Association exalcksively, wbicU was-an anti-slavery octety,.or should divide its contributions betveeh jhat society and the-American Board, which was accused 0 being pro-slavery or trimnalng, that gave iiso to an animated -discussion among oar people, and I did not 1 speak on the sublet during tho time it was In the lecture room. but did in the church, and was replied tobv Tilton. Q, And on that occasion t'ero was considerable antasoaism between vou and Tilton in views aui their expresc4on? A. Yes, sir, but nothing, transcended what I see here in court at alL Laughter. 'There was a perfectly kindly reeling expressed. sometimes rather, positivelv. nt93ewed laughter.! Q. Now on this question which side were you on, and which side liltion? A. Tilton was in favor of throwing ever tbe American boardfiand.I was in favor cl maintaining the right of ruy people to coutribut to It ir they wanted to. Q. And Jiad youjr society a habit. of contributing to t.hal? - , That was the old-standing board t with vs. but It was through nay grace and favor tbt,the church,. for it was a most unpopular thing at tbe time to pay a cent pecuniarily for abolition &urposes. Beach-Tbe old standing, board, was anti-slavery.. Beecher alleged, it to be. Evarts And Tilton was co the other side for exclusive contribution?- A. I. don't think the debate was upon that, eir,. although, of course, that wouM be tb morJ effects If I recollect aright, Tilton confin himself to showing tbat the American board was in complicity -with slavery I think, that was the drittel bis argumt. Q. The maUer was debat-sd between vou and him? A. Yes, sir. Q Vfcat was. the result Id the. church? A. The vote was in f&voa of suainias; the American board, thought both of the societies were beneficiaries cithe chsfchad the state of things was notto be at&cled by thr. vote of the church thea bad u son it. Q. Jupt as it had been, for the-purpos was to cut off tbebeneht and the resolution, was to perpetuate it? A. Perpetuate it. Q. Asitwas Now, on that occasion. M. Brecher, or ei about that time, did ycu perceive in Tiltou any growing views of rivalry, or a spirit bis part of rivalry? A. No, sir; I didn't Wlieve any such ihinsr. Beach We objeci to that. Beecher-A. I heard it often said,bu'. nsver belleveo) it, Evarts wby do yo' ol ject? Bsach because I don't think it is proper. Eviwts It baa all been In TlltcoS examination, teach 1 know you cross-examined him on thfkX but you eant gt TSE witness' conclusions Evarts All tight. (To Mr. Beecher) i Q. Now, at or abbat this time, (this was about IStiO, I believe) about 1S:0, did there come to be an interruption by Tlttoa ln the way of visiting at your house? A. In 1861. During that period, do yoa mean? Q. About this time. I am not speaking of this in connection with this time; not referring to this but only to this time of 1800 or 1SU1. A. Yes, sir, I can't say there was any very great Interruption, because Tilton waa not ln the habit of vU-itlng much at my house. It waa not a particular resort of bis. we met at his bouse somewhat later, and. at the oiiice, or oa the

street, or In a picture shop, and wherever wa agreed to meet. Did there come to be an occasional period aiier which h? ceased to be a vlsKor orcallerat yonr house? A. Ves. sir; but I can tJiT ,he datc ot thAt- i- Ad from that occasion did you remark that his visits t'f ftsHl.cn ual visits? A. Yes. sir. Q. Without any m.cal of hiseasual visits at our house? A. lis tir. ti. Aow at this time, early In May, v-m hera aüy occasion on vhirk Tüinn -i j -

lactcf kindness or Irl-tdshiD to vou'cVr-ir'

raimiy that especially impressed j ou or d the rauteof your feeling and exprewiüg K.-fc-. 4:,:e? A. He was always doing me liuie kiud.i - that we i very rreeabie, trat there was one 'J. is 5;nl ab?v l others, 3d that was voT7 especially valuable to me. (. lfct was in refe'hoyi22r80nI .A- Kt'- Whlrh has, perhaps, been sufficiently referred to. lid you feel that very much? a. I did and 1 do. Mf"1 ou so express yourself toward him? f Hla Recess. After re-ess Beacher again took the t.tand. Q. Head tbe lat question and answer, Mr. StenoRrapher. The stenographer read it, as follow: Did you fee 1 that very much? A. I did and I do. ti. Did you so express yourself toward bim? A. 1 did, sir. Mr. L.varts-q. In IStiö, Mr. Beecher, oi lst-i,i hen the C leveland letter and comments of the Independent, which have been given rn evleute er raaae puoilc, did thfft a3Tect in any way THE RELATIONS BETWEEN Y0TJ and Tilton? A. Undoubtedly It producetv som effect, sir, but it did not produce any such effect as socially to affc-ct us. tj. Now, do you re-Member about tfcat time In the year 13i of bavin an j excited conversation with Tilton, which tad something to do with an Interview he fcnd aad Lh.?n jQ!son? A. I do, sir. Q, Mr. Jud?on was a witness on the stand, you remember, In urn case? A. No. 1 not prewnt when üe wis examined, n. i mtan that Judsort I v o beu witness here?' lcs, s.r. t. ow, what occurred betweenyou and Iii tmi on that occasion? A. 1 went over to the Independent offlce witn some excitement aca told Tiliou. ti. You had wen Judson? A. Ihat Jwdson wfi9 t niv house that morning, and had reported lhatT.iton, as I recollect now, at a restaurant, hi!e dlnlDc, had made some statemerts respecting me vhich bore an imputation-of Immornlity. As I now reoollect. liwait statement of loose misconduct with women, but I can't be perectly certain at-rwt It, and I came rh?ht to him wi th the matter with strong ecimUon, be Biid it was not trne. Mr. Judson said there was some mistake, 4that ie would go-right out and see Jodson and learn what the matter.meant. lie went, and after a time returned,- I reroeiaber, wit hin n short time. I 8w him aga4n. ile said it was all a mistake, that Judson bad explained ffcVV? iPaJler, and that it asa wlstaft.and that he-naa never mnl nA -r mvi, 1 a I with resrect to ire. o. Phi that end' I lie matj?ter? A. 1 es, sir. O. It removnl ih imnrMAn from yonr mind that he had tald so? Beacr-I object to tbat, Evarts Well, we wiH not prww 1 Q. Was this about tb time that hewrMo you a letter; look at that letter, throwing wttiis a paperl and say If you received it from Mj. Tluon ut or about the time I state. A. SLeJl I stste the circumstances taider which it wa wr-Uen ? 'i. 0 far as they nroceed irom Til tonw A. We had some conversation after that a boat whether he wai friendly or not friendly, and. our lerms of iutei course. It a a very gratefuL one 5o me, aad satisfactory, and It wat- baid between us. that there may be no misconception on eiSier sid. suppose you write and expressyour ieeHlngs tome, and I will express raliie to you, id with that K1KD of lover's quarrel,. he wrote rue tbis letter. The-letter was-read.-It bears date of Brooklyn, midnight, SOth Nov-' ember, IM5, an It the out In which Tilton tar s heregrets tbat he has been compelled to appear as Beechert -antagonist before the public tw4ce la the last 3ve years, and that If cither ions ago orWtely, aay wcdof mine, wbe-ther spoken or' printed, whether In public or private, haa given you pain 1 bepeyou to blot It Irom your memory and to writryour forgivrness in its place."" MoreoveAlt- iskould die leaving yorwallvelak ycu 10 love my children-for their father'ssake. wtohas-au:ht them to reverence you and to regard yo as the man of men. Kvarts rto witnas) 1 from thisrerkxl and onward, from lStS) to the month of Lettmber. :70, Mr. Beeeher, what were your hat its as to meeting or owciatir-5 In one another's company between yoa and fii.Tiltoa? A. Willi you memioii the -dates agai? Vi- From 1 on want to the nonthof I ecem-ber 1S70. A. 1 meet hin In New York and I met hi.ru at divert meetings on pub- -la occasions. Q. Do you rea&bember Titer you took charpaof tb Christian Union In the be--ginning of 12(70, aud on through that year (1870) . did the tact of your being t!u the editor of a rrtigious paper, ia the former city, rHke any didarence, either in friendship orocr.tieiiof ' yur meeting will Tilton, ijIiowm e -King the ladependent?: ileech I thln!i that .. calls for- the Jur'gjaent of the viness. 'Vewait the fact wiih regojuk to THEIfi J NTIM AC V OR INTERCOURSE without asking this witness to determine what was the cause without stating the facta. A. The TrUness, C a ! well. I will st ate the fac'-a Q. Subsequent to- that time wr-aLwas the Ja.se? A. I äd no occasLfa from Jaly to thendof the year, froauJabaary to tfcat Urne. I ,bave no re- -eoUeclion.aboui either rticular :alimacv or absence ot lt.. 4." Pullerto: You speak of 1 i70, do you? . A- In U year lü"o Hr. Kvcta Do you I a. 1 m. 1 - m rememt.fir in. the wlntee of 1S7U any eircumatancea Uiat bougbt yo j into eocaetion with. bim in regard, to dlfferaai. womesufn-agUts'-' assocla'oLQnsy or wa3. that ia lja? a. That waa. tiie year. tidy, b a o. IStitf: - well, , how was i:t mattas- t these womenAsuf&agit sociHie ElKlOr Hie d VOU IDeaikZ V, A. ia reference to you meani v. Ulrind you. and your r&latlooato the socinie? - Beaea I don't -see bowtbiaonnecUca with thesa twosocleties. can ba held as important aere ersept so far as it had cnnectien with 1 titan. Evrb5 That's all. 1 pre pose U do. liecahejr We oo-oprated on. the sijtcktlU 1&C9. UviDg :aee'lBgs at his. house ox Waat was cafd the hqual llishts Asso--ciatlon. There were several lor:a of the more meDttiodr dilTeren',ames, ani. in Isi'J what Is. caJied.ihe-Bor.tou wi of the female suffragists . bud a convection in Cleveland aiid formed a national atsoeialion. of which 1 eCecied prsslUe it, noi kuowing tual there claimed to be another, ttatioiial usaociatiou tu New York, ceiled, tbe Nc York wing, aud I thus found myself betwcea two femalecaUonai societies lie w president of cd. tbo- eoi-e and I, was presiOfeat of the other. After 1 bad conbenUd to let my came go butore the coaventioo, Iaecollect liigft discashion. with Tilton. aul he waa vurv urgent that f houIinctdolt,.aiid altuoit, persuaded 21a to. vend a leleträiu, withdrawing my name, Aftethe formtUonof tbat society, and befor theneit May, a more ihczaugh orgauiaUon. Into, a nation society, by absorption of, the equal rights society intcviiatlonal o, was forced by the New York aad the one Tilton was eleHfed preidöni of, that, ia the May annlvwaazleaol V..70, we appeared res pec lively, at, the bead of ojr chargej Ln two contiguous bills in NwYork andezchanged 1 altera of c-jrtesy, ovarture procadings from -jimtous, aad then ccorteoua replies from us toxiim and bis assoc iates. Beach Xae May anniyersary of t? Wi tns: In 1JJ70 I think it was. t. A letter has 'oeB out in evidence already. Mr. Eeechjer. fioni yu loTillou on- this subject of religious 'i"u a ana rengious.83perienre; iqia.exniDis " W'j'ioo at this, ple, handing mJtnets a paperj r o t lo recollect the matter ot the letter. A. I.vecaJ the letter,, sir. Q. Now- tbat rtfer, thatstatds w.th referance to a conversation, does it not? A Yes, s!r I will take, however, anotar r branch before bring that i that connection, üwill fiO ON WITB PERSONAL "MATTERS. (J,. Des yoa remenber an cccojyence of sitting for a, portrait by the artist, Page? A. I do. "Wh was that?? A. I will have to look at my memorandum; bave got itbere. Q. Isupposo'J thve is no ob'petion? A. In, the fall and early In, the wlntei of ISO. Q. Kow did that cotue about between yoa said Tilton? A I lave na distinct remembrance, ex cept that he waa desirous of having me go to Page and sit for my portrait. Q . Waa Fag e a friend of bis? A. Yes, sir, I sup pose SO Sir. He spoke and talked a great deal of him. Q Was he of youra before that time? Well.be married a woman ln Hartford ln whom all our family were interested, and I had met him a few times. Q. Give me tbe number of times that you sat lor that portrait. A. I can't five the number; it was a very great numoer. would not be willing to say it waa over filty, but I should hardly be willing to say it was less, ti. And was Tilton thre at any time? A Not uofrequently ; several times be came there. Q. And after that was finished did you see it in Tilton's house? A. I can't tell you. Fir; my impression Is that I did. Q. Now, Mr. Iteecher, what was the relation between Tilton and yourself and Plymouth Church from your early acquaintance uth him when be did become a member of the. church, and how was be as to caring for the religions duties of the church and of bis connections ln the early days? A. in early days, I can't say when he Joined, it was early; my impression Is trtathe Ji iued tbe church before be was married. In 1851 ; no. It was his wife who Joined the church ln 1831. Q. Prevloua to his marrlaee? A. 1 have very lttle recollection of hh ounnenion with the Continued on ftuib Vast.